Mistake on domestic installer certification? what impact?

[miker7]

Just got my domestic installer certificate back and there may be a mistake on it (ignoring the bits he's overwritten as he got it wrong the first time he wrote it).

Page 3 lists the different circuits, for the number of points served he's listed the number as 18. Is this the actual number of points that have a socket in the house or something else?

What effect is there with this being wrong? I'm thinking specifically when i come to sell the house but are there other occasions it could be checked?

I think we're definitely out by one and maybe more as there are some sockets on a spur that I don't think have been counted. Should the spur count as one or as one for each socket group?

 

[sparkwright]

A double socket is counted as 2.

A switched fused spur or unswitched fused spur is counted as 1, even if it supplies a single socket below a kitchen worktop for example.

I wouldn't worry about it personally.

 

[sparkwright]

The number of points are counted on every circuit.

So for example, all the lights on every lighting circuit will be counted. This will not include counting the light switches.

 

[Risteard]

A double socket is counted as 2.

Not necessarily. I believe NICEIC suggest that they are considered to be two points, but if one was to read the definitions then it could only be construed to be one point.

So long as the person is consistent in their approach then I would suggest that that is the main thing.

 

[Taylortwocities]

IMO it works like this. Each accessory counts as one point. So:

Single socket outlet 1 point
Double socket outlet 1 point
Fues spur 1 point

5 GU10 downlights 5 points

Single light fitting with 5 x GU10 lamps in it 1 point

Here's one to get you going:

what about a fused spur feeding a socket for a washing machine. Is that one or two points?

Confused yet?

I might ask NAPIT for their understanding. This is going to be fun!!

 

[ban-all-sheds]

what about a fused spur feeding a socket for a washing machine. Is that one or two points?

What about a fused spur supplying 4 sockets and another fused spur supplying 4 lights, and with one of the 4 sockets used to supply a UPS which in turn supplies a wall-mounted 5-gang socket strip?

 

[ban-all-sheds]

what about a fused spur feeding a socket for a washing machine. Is that one or two points?

What about a fused spur supplying 4 sockets and another fused spur which supplies 4 lights, and with one of the 4 sockets used to supply a UPS which in turn supplies a wall-mounted 5-gang socket strip?

 

[seasickstevie]

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There's an echo in here !

 

[Taylortwocities]

What about a fused spur supplying 4 sockets and another fused spur supplying 4 lights, and with one of the 4 sockets used to supply a UPS which in turn supplies a wall-mounted 5-gang socket strip?

Good point, or should that be good points??

 

[ban-all-sheds]

B****r - I meant to edit my post, but clicked quote instead. If you look closely you'll see the difference between the original and the "quoted" one.

 

[flameport]

What effect is there with this being wrong? I'm thinking specifically when i come to sell the house but are there other occasions it could be checked?

In reality, none whatsoever.

Even if someone wants to buy the house, they most certainly will not be counting the number of socket outlets and then requesting the documentation to see if the numbers are correct.
Even in the world of the impossible where that actually happened, who would care?

 

[Taylortwocities]

My spies tell me that the "Number of Points" thingy is meant so that when a subsequent inspection is done the follow on electrician knows how many points have to be inspected.

Very nice in a pure sense but (certainly for domestic) I have yet to find a customer who has any documentation about anything.