New Conservatory on Existing Extension?

[Ron_UK]

Hello

Would really appreciate some advice, bit confused with this one!

We live in a Detached House, it has a 3 Metre existing Rear Extension that was completed by the previous owners in 1988 and it has a 100 foot garden.

We were hoping to add a Conservatory onto the existing extension under Permitted Development BUT wondering if it would be allowed seeing that the house already has an extension? The Conservatory would not be attached to the rear of the original house but to it's extension done in 1988.

Thought i'd get some advice before applying officially.

Many thanks
Ron

 

[DevilDamo]

Providing PD rights remain intact, you can only build out to 4m. So you can extend the extension by another 1m or replace it with a 4m extension. The latter is for those who have more of a dilapidated extension and wish to upgrade it anyway.

 

[Leofric]

So you can extend the extension by another 1m or replace it with a 4m extension.

or apply for planning permission .

 

[DevilDamo]

or apply for planning permission .

Correct although it appeared the OP only wanted to explore the options available to them under PD.

Even applying for PP for a single storey rear extension generally pose little risk but check the Council’s policies and guidelines for any potential restrictions, e.g. 60 degree line.

 

[^woody^]

Extend out to 8m from the house under the Neighbour Consultation Scheme

 

[Ron_UK]

Extend out to 8m from the house under the Neighbour Consultation Scheme

Thanks for everyone's replies, although i'm still in the same confused zone .

Woody, could you please elaborate more on your reply please, would very much appreciate a little more info.
We have very good neighbours, i feel they would not resist us building out as it would not impact on them.

So just so i have it clear, as we are Detached we would normally be allowed to extend out 6M under PD but under the consultation scheme we could go out to 8M under PD?
I'm guessing i would have to take into account the 3M existing extension, meaning 8M minus 3M means we could add a conservatory of 5M?
Or is it possible to add 8M onto the extension?

I would like to take full advantage of the 30 SQM rule so building control was not required too, apart from electrical approval.

Thanks again
Ron

 

[^woody^]

www.planningportal.co.uk/info/200130/common_projects/17/extensions/2

8m in total from the original rear house wall

 

[Ron_UK]

www.planningportal.co.uk/info/200130/common_projects/17/extensions/2

8m in total from the original rear house wall

Thanks Woody

So in a nutshell, with Neighbours consent we could (hopefully) add a 5M Conservatory to the existing 3M extension, right?

 

[^woody^]

It's not really about the neighbours consent or objection. A neighbour does not need to give his consent, and if a neighbour does object, all that means is that the council must take that into account in their decision process - ie is any objection actually valid, and does the proposal adversely impact the neighbour.

 

[Ron_UK]

It's not really about the neighbours consent or objection. A neighbour does not need to give his consent, and if a neighbour does object, all that means is that the council must take that into account in their decision process - ie is any objection actually valid, and does the proposal adversely impact the neighbour.

Oh i seeeeeee, thank you.
So under the neighbour consultation scheme for PD the council would contact the neighbours when my application for Certificate of Lawfulness is applied for?
A specific length of time is then allowed for them to make contact with any concerns and then council make decision on the application.

So top wack, 5M maximum onto the existing extension?
Thanks
Ron


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[^woody^]

So under the neighbour consultation scheme for PD the council would contact the neighbours when my application for Certificate of Lawfulness is applied for?

No

A certificate of lawfulness is completly different thing and process and for a different situation. If you are applying for one of these, the council make the decision and do not consult

 

[Ron_UK]

No

A certificate of lawfulness is completly different thing and process and for a different situation. If you are applying for one of these, the council make the decision and do not consult

Oh OK, thanks again.
Seeing that i would have to go through the Neighbour Consultation Scheme to get approval for the additional 5M Conservatory i guess that letter of approval from the Council would in effect be just as good as a Certificate of Lawfulness? Or would i need to apply for one of those as well? Really appreciate your help here Woody.

 

[^woody^]

Oh OK, thanks again.
Seeing that i would have to go through the Neighbour Consultation Scheme to get approval for the additional 5M Conservatory i guess that letter of approval from the Council would in effect be just as good as a Certificate of Lawfulness? Or would i need to apply for one of those as well? Really appreciate your help here Woody.

No the two are different

If you go through the scheme, and get the approval then that is the permission and you need nothing further.

If you want to check that something is lawful to build, or want to certify an existing structure as being lawful then you apply for a LDC

You would not apply in advance for a LDC for your proposed conservatory because it will be refused. You would not apply afterwards because it's a waste of time as you already have the permsission via the scheme (if you followed it)

If you just built the conservatory without any permission, then you would wait 4 years and then apply for an LDC to make it lawful.

Here endeth the lesson.

 

[Ron_UK]

No the two are different

If you go through the scheme, and get the approval then that is the permission and you need nothing further.

If you want to check that something is lawful to build, or want to certify an existing structure as being lawful then you apply for a LDC

You would not apply in advance for a LDC for your proposed conservatory because it will be refused. You would not apply afterwards because it's a waste of time as you already have the permsission via the scheme (if you followed it)

If you just built the conservatory without any permission, then you would wait 4 years and then apply for an LDC to make it lawful.

Here endeth the lesson.

A Lesson that has been well appreciated, thank you Woody

Cannot express how much this has helped and i'm sure will help others who drop onto this page in the future.
Cheers!
Ron

 

[JP_]

Providing PD rights remain intact, you can only build out to 4m.

I thought it was 8m on a detached property under DP now?