New doughnut thingy for toilet?

[Roger465]

The toilet here has probably been in situ since 1994, when the house was built, and is seeping water out from the join between the cistern and bowl (close-coupled, as you can see). So I’d like to replace the doughnut.



However, in my very early days on this forum, years ago, I tried to do this with the toilets in my modern Shedrow house back in England, and found they used a non-standard (I think Ideal Standard or something) doughnut, so it all turned into a bit of a nightmare.



Any way I can tell before removing the cistern if it’s likely to be a standard kind? Can you tell anything from the pics?



Thanks as always

PS I know, I know, new toilet time... but the floor has been tiled round this one, meaning I'd need a new floor too... sigh...

 

[just pumps]

Most likely the standard round donut however until you remove the cistern you won`t know if it is just the donut or you need the fixing kit as well. Start it early in the day to give yourself time to get the bits is the best advice.

 

[HERTS P&D]

https://www.screwfix.com/p/wc-close-coupling-kit-white/84958?_requestid=436660

and while its all apart:

https://www.screwfix.com/p/thomas-dudley-ltd-adjustable-siphon-237mm/9756f

https://www.screwfix.com/p/fluidmaster-bottom-entry-brass-shank-fill-valve/47792

Andy

 

[Bosswhite]

Along with the close coupling kit I would suggest fitting a Fluidmaster fill unit and a Flapper valve and chuck out all the old gubbins, Cheap enough for peace of mind

 

[just pumps]

Along with the close coupling kit I would suggest fitting a Fluidmaster fill unit and a Flapper valve and chuck out all the old gubbins, Cheap enough for peace of mind

Agree, might as well do it whilst the cistern is off.

 

[Roger465]

Thanks for all that guys, very much appreciated

 

[Roger465]

Oh - just a thought - is it possible to fit a random new cistern easily?

I mean, do the holes tend to line up, or... not...

 

[Hot&Cold]

The problem is getting a replacement cistern that will line up with the pan holes and butt up against your tiled wall,sizes vary so much these days

Nice cistern lid


just pumps has the best advice,start early

 

[just pumps]

Oh - just a thought - is it possible to fit a random new cistern easily?

I mean, do the holes tend to line up, or... not...

Most of that carp will scrape of with a piece of plastic or wood with a sharp edge and Kil-Rock in a spray bottle.

 

[JohnD]

some of the non-standard fittings have four screws, the usual ones have two.

I keep a few stainless coach bolts, washers and wingnuts for cisterns, because I've been enraged in the past at having to saw through rusted old parts. Is it M8? You can buy small numbers on fleabay at a modest price.

p.s.
if you buy a new cistern, it needs to be larger water capacity than a typical modern one. You can still get them, but have to hunt around. The capacity might be marked on the inside of your cistern, in litres or gallons, if not, fill it up with a litre jug and count them. The Flapper valve gives a very forceful flush, which I favour.

 

[Roger465]

Nice cistern lid

Why, thank you Ma’am {curtsies} – no seriously, I’m on a very tight budget, having kind of forcibly retired with no pension yet, so I tend to leave unfashionable things alone unless they’re (a) bust, or (b) p*ssing water all over the floor.

So the house is full of early 90’s features… some day, some day… by which time they’ll no doubt have become popular again, like Victorian fireplaces.

Kil-Rock in a spray bottle.

I am a GREAT believer in Kilrock.

And sometimes hydrochloric acid, if that won’t shift it