New lights help

[Paulboy]

I am putting up new spotlight in kitchen and replacing current ceiling rose, however some of the blue wires has brown wire over it so how should i treat it in the new wiring arrangement?

 

[ban-all-sheds]

The same way you would treat it now...

Do you have even the faintest idea of how lighting circuits are wired?

 

[EdwardCurrent]

Hello,

This may 'shed some light' !
Ensure the circuit is not LIVE whilst working.

//www.diynot.com/wiki/electrics:lighting:rose

Lots of info in the 'wiki'.

If that doesn't help, post a pic if possible ?

Cheers,

Ed.

 

[Paulboy]

Well i know how to wire a plug and a socket etc etc, but just confused when i saw the brown strip over the blue and wondered how i used that afterwards

 

[ericmark]

Method is first inform the local authority building control you intend to change the light (You can change like for like without but this is not like for like).
Second try not swearing when they tell you how much it will cost to DIY the work.
Third look for a registered electrician under Part P to do the work cheaper than you can DIY.
Out of interest the blue wire with brown sleeve would be the switch line and will go to line on new lamp often with a big L for line on it.
The blues without sleeves will go together and connect to terminal on new lamp with N for neutral on it.
The brown wires just connect together within a junction box which you will need to replace ceiling rose as the rose acts as both junction box and suspension point. The junction box if not accessible will need to be a special type with no screws.
Does that help.
Eric

 

[Steve]

When did the word "line" replace the word "live" replace the word "phase"

 

[Adam_151]

When did the word "line" replace the word "live" replace the word "phase"

Line conductor replaced phase conductor in BS7671:2008

Live conductor is unaffected

 

[Taylortwocities]

Live conductor is unaffected

Because both neutral and line are live conductors.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

(You can change like for like without but this is not like for like).

Can you show us where "like for like" is defined, or where the concept is applied, or the term is used?

Line conductor replaced phase conductor in BS7671:2008

Is that in Part 2?

 

[RF Lighting]

Line conductor replaced phase conductor in BS7671:2008

Is that in Part 2?

Yep. About halfway down on page 27

 

[ban-all-sheds]

I really am going to have to get a copy - keep finding differences from the draft (which has nothing between "Leisure accomodation vehicle" and "Live part" and does still have "Phase conductor".....)

 

[RF Lighting]

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[ban-all-sheds]

Ta.

I did believe you, BTW.

Presumably they retained the reference to "Phase conductor" so that they didn't have to re-word all the regs which contained it...

 

[Adam_151]

I think regs which referenced phase conductor, do reference line conductor now... a least the ones which I can bring to mind do, that said there might be a reference to phase conductor somewhere...

I notice Robs managed to include the best definition of them all 'pleasure craft'

 

[securespark]

I notice Robs managed to include the best definition of them all 'pleasure craft'

But there's no reference in that definition to include scantily-dressed nubile young women, so it isn't really a pleasure craft, is it?