Norway says no.

[JohnD]

"Senior Norwegian politicians and business figures have rejected Norway-plus, the increasingly touted British cross-party plan for the UK to leave the EU but join Norway in a free trade trade area inside the EU single market.

They attacked the idea as “neither in Norway nor the UK’s interest”. The UK would need Norway’s permission to join its Efta club."
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...oliticians-reject-uks-norway-plus-brexit-plan

Stupid damn Quitters should have started looking into it three years ago.

Does anyone claim it isn't a shambles?

 

[cwhaley]

Clever nation. Rich in natural resources, the energy grid is in public hands and they've consistently refused to join the European Union.

I'm more pleased to see that Canada, India, China, Mexico, Australia and hopefully other BRIC nations have - in varying levels - expressed an interest in opening up new trade with Britain post withdrawal from the EU.

The way the withdrawal discussions have been dealt with appears to most of us as a shambles I agree, but we only know what we're shown and it was never going to be made seamless.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Stupid damn Quitters should have started looking into it three years ago.

But they didn't.

They went into the polling booths with eyes wide open knowing that they were voting to leave and knowing that they were not giving any instructions on how leave would happen.

So it's a bit late now for them to complain that they don't like the result.

 

[Ihavenojob]

Stupid damn Quitters should have started looking into it three years ago.

Why? Brexit was unheard of then, referendum was announced Feb 16, I realise you regard Brexiteers as highly intelligent, but they can't see into the future. Dumb dumb remoaners.

 

[Notch7]

They went into the polling booths with eyes wide open knowing that they were voting to leave and knowing that they were not giving any instructions on how leave would happen.

How many of the 30 million plus that voted understand much about EU membership? Your continuous fatuous, unqualified argument is boring. Lets be honest, you just get off on the smugness

I doubt remainers had much idea or thought much about the future of the EU.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

How many of the 30 million plus that voted understand much about EU membership?

You are completely missing the point.

People who voted to leave have got exactly what they voted for because what they were asked was a very simple, unqualified question with no options regarding details.

The reality is that it was anything but a very simple issue, and the details were of vital importance. Reality, as is its wont, does not go away just because people refuse to admit that it exists.

As soon as someone ticked the leave box on the ballot paper they were saying that this is what they wanted. They did not ask to be given any options. They did not ask that negotiations with the EU should take place before triggering Article 50. They did not ask the government to establish any alternative deals to choose between and then to find out which one was the will of the people. So it's a bit late now for them to complain that they don't like the result.

Your continuous fatuous, unqualified argument is boring. Lets be honest, you just get off on the smugness

Let's be honest - you just don't like the fact that you cannot deny reality.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Why? Brexit was unheard of then, referendum was announced Feb 16

The European Union Referendum Act 2015 (c. 36) was passed by the House of Commons on 9 June 2015 and was approved by the House of Lords on 14 December 2015.

Brexiteers ... can't see into the future.

Nor pay attention to the present or remember the past, it seems.

 

[Ihavenojob]

The European Union Referendum Act 2015 (c. 36) was passed by the House of Commons on 9 June 2015 and was approved by the House of Lords on 14 December 2015.

That is paving the way to allow a referendum, D Camoron had still not decided to have one, not approved till Dec 17 2015 & came into force on Feb1 2016, so still not 3 years.

 

[SirGalahad]

Clever nation. Rich in natural resources, the energy grid is in public hands and they've consistently refused to join the European Union.

I'm more pleased to see that Canada, India, China, Mexico, Australia and hopefully other BRIC nations have - in varying levels - expressed an interest in opening up new trade with Britain post withdrawal from the EU.

The way the withdrawal discussions have been dealt with appears to most of us as a shambles I agree, but we only know what we're shown and it was never going to be made seamless.

How would that compare to their trade deals with the EU?

How long do you think these fantasy trade deals will take? What industries will they cover and what about no tariff issues?

Fantasy Island indeed.

 

[Ian H]

Does anyone claim it isn't a shambles?

It is a shambles.

I wonder how it would have gone if the Remain campaigners had accepted the referendum result and got behind it from day 1. Would we have got a better deal? I think so.

 

[Ihavenojob]

Stupid damn Quitters should have started looking into it three years ago.

Agree that they should have been making trade deals as soon as they decided to leave.

 

[SirGalahad]

It is a shambles.

I wonder how it would have gone if the Remain campaigners had accepted the referendum result and got behind it from day 1. Would we have got a better deal? I think so.

The deal was not incumbent on remainers supporting it - that's a non starter. It was always and still remain a legal issue. We don't want access to the SM, that's fine; hard Brexit and batten down the hatches and let it all collapse. If we wanted access to the SM, then we had to accept the 4 freedoms. Nothing has changed since we voted and remainers supporting it makes no difference.

 

[SirGalahad]

Agree that they should have been making trade deals as soon as they decided to leave.

You can only make a trade deal after you have actually left. How many times you are going to push a false narrative and downright untruths - how long do trade deals take?

Snap back to reality.

 

[Ihavenojob]

You can only make a trade deal after you have actually left

That was my point, what deals could we have made 2 1/2 years ago?

 

[Ian H]

The deal was not incumbent on remainers supporting it - that's a non starter. It was always and still remain a legal issue. We don't want access to the SM, that's fine; hard Brexit and batten down the hatches and let it all collapse. If we wanted access to the SM, then we had to accept the 4 freedoms. Nothing has changed since we voted and remainers supporting it makes no difference.

The UK would have come across as a sensible group of adults rather than a bunch of arguing kids.