Nothing better to do?

[Shytalkz]

Exactly what does this achieve?

Gonna buy me a van and schtart schmoking

 

[joe-90]

It puts law and order back into society. Guidelines for a better community.

It is against the law and he has been fined.

Bit like speeding fines really.

 

[Shytalkz]

Ah, but he actually has not broken the law. He is a sole trader, ergo no other members of staff use his van, other than him.

Htf does stopping someone smoking in a van put law and order back into society and make for a better community, anyhow?

 

[Shytalkz]

"I respect anyone who chooses not to smoke, but I would also ask for the same respect to have the freedom to smoke in my own private vehicle."

 

[joe-90]

The same way speed limits crack down on idiots that speed.

 

[Shytalkz]

Which you "justify" by your stance of speed kills - ostensibly in reference to third parties. And smoking on one's own kills...how many bystanders exactly?

 

[joe-90]

Depends how many are on the curb when he mows them down through lack of concentration.

He can't eat and drive or phone and drive - why should he be able to smoke and drive?

 

[Benny_the_ball-valve]

To diverge slightly from the point here, is it not the case that a driver, if smoking, compromises control over their vehicle. Thus it should be illegal for a driver to smoke per se?

 

[Shytalkz]

Depends how many are on the curb when he mows them down through lack of concentration.

You get more ridiculous by the day. This is an oft-observed phenomenon, is it?

He can't eat and drive or phone and drive - why should he be able to smoke and drive?

And it's currently illegal to smoke in one's own car? Erm, no. He has a van, not a car, what's the distinction in your mind, then?

 

[Shytalkz]

To diverge slightly from the point here, is it not the case that a driver, if smoking, compromises control over their vehicle. Thus it should be illegal for a driver to smoke per se?

So taking out satnav, hands-free kits, wives, kids, pets, radios and CD players then, would be the logical extension of that, no?

 

[Benny_the_ball-valve]

So taking out satnav, hands-free kits, wives, kids, pets, radios and CD players then, would be the logical extension of that, no?

Have you specified that list in order of importance? I have no concerns with any of the items you have mentioned. The process of lighting a cigarette, smoking a cigarette, discading the ash from a cigarette and extinguishing a cigarette will scarcely be a hands-free operation.

 

[Shytalkz]

No particular order, but why don't you have concerns about them, then? They are at least as distracting as you make the act of schmoking out to be.

Rolling a fag whilst driving might be a bit problematic , but lighting a tailormade, wanging the ash out of the window and binning the butt in the same way is hardly using the majority of concentration now, is it?

 

[Benny_the_ball-valve]

No particular order, but why don't you have concerns about them, then? They are at least as distracting as you make the act of schmoking out to be.

Not one of those items is as distracting as dropping a lighted ciggy, which will happen, however rarely.

Rolling a fag whilst driving might be a bit problematic , but lighting a tailormade, wanging the ash out of the window and binning the butt in the same way is hardly using the majority of concentration now, is it?

Depends upon who is doing the concentrating.

 

[joe-90]

No particular order, but why don't you have concerns about them, then? They are at least as distracting as you make the act of schmoking out to be.

Rolling a fag whilst driving might be a bit problematic , but lighting a tailormade, wanging the ash out of the window and binning the butt in the same way is hardly using the majority of concentration now, is it?

Why is it illegal to drive and eat then?

I guess you must be one of those people that drive and stick their hands out the window as if they are turning right to get rid of the ash eh? What a thoughtless mindless character you are. Bet you ride a noisy motorbike too?

 

[SkintedSpreadandPropertyD]

I am so happy I have stumbled across this forum. Since the property market has gone into freefall and my renovation business was declared insolvent I have a large void in my life. Now I can participate on this forum and hopefully have some form of social interaction that my life has been sadly lacking.

I may well use the forum at night as well since my missus has run off with an immigrant.