Outside socket, which is the best?

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As above, looked online & there is a multitude of different makes & prices.

It has to be waterproof, as live in Cumbria & it rains a lot. Would be used for mainly mower & strimmer use.

I Haven't really looked for anything yet, just looking ahead.

As far as i am aware i don't need a sparky & can fit it myself. Is that still the case?

I would spur off a socket in the lounge(on ring main) & straight through wall. Many thanks for reading this.

P.s What size of cable & type is required?
 
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First of all, which country are you in?
I see you are showing the Union Flag so that narrows it down a bit but whether you in Wales or England alters it a bit because Part P applies in both countries but England relaxed some rules a few years back. If you are in Wales it is notifiable works whilst in England it is not nowadays.
Providing, of course that you are not creating a new circuit.
Scotland and Northern Ireland have different rules.
Scotland, like England and Wales relies on the IET Wiring Regulations also known as BS7671. Whilst it is not actually law to obey it then we all should, almost invariably, obey it.
I am not 100% sure what laws/rules apply in Northern Ireland but I suspect obeying BS7671 might apply, others on here will no doubt have better information on NI.

In so far as BS7671 applies then your socket you intend to tap off could be one of three types as far as the existing wiring is concerned.
1/ on a radial circuit (usually 2.5 Twin and Earth or greater). Normally with a 15/16/20 amp fuse or breaker at the consumer unit.
2/ On a ring Final Circuit (sometimes incorrectly called a ring main). Normally a complete ring "daisy chain" from consumer unit and back in sequence.
3/ A spur, spurs are usually connected to a ring final circuit but can be from a radial either.
On a radial circuit (including any spur on a radial circuit) it is permissible to wire to any new socket directly unless there is a specific need to fuse down (this is usually achieved via a Fused Connection Unit or a Switched Fused Connection Unit - often these units are incorrectly termed a a "spur" because they are often traditionally found on a spur but really it is the wiring itself which is actually a spur or not, not the connection unit itself.

If a spur is fed from a ring final circuit then additional rules apply.
a spur may be connected directly at the origin of the circuit (the "fuseway") really should be the only conductor in that fuseway besides the two conductors comprising the ring final itself. Using a minimum of 2.5 T & E cable and connecting one single or one twin socket.
Instead you could connect it to the input side of a Fused Connection Unit and then on the output side connect as many sockets as you like because the total limit of current will be 13 amps or less.

In a similar fashion you could connect your spur to any socket on the ring providing that the existing socket is not on a spur itself.
And again you could connect your spur directly to the ring itself (example by using a junction box).
It is considered not best practice to not have more spurs on a ring than items actually on a ring properly but I would not worry too much about that.
I would advise using one of the better known more established makes of outside socket, example "BG".
I would also advise using a double pole switch inside the premises to break the supply to the outside socket in case of damage and water ingress (or if you want to avoid the chance of some miscreant using your electric whilst you away from home for long periods).

Finally, I am assuming your existing circuit is up to speed with modern wiring RCDs etc etc before you attempt any additions or alterations and you hasve the knowledge to do so safely.
 
First of all, which country are you in?
I see you are showing the Union Flag so that narrows it down a bit but whether you in Wales or England alters it a bit because Part P applies in both countries but England relaxed some rules a few years back. If you are in Wales it is notifiable works whilst in England it is not nowadays.
Providing, of course that you are not creating a new circuit.
Scotland and Northern Ireland have different rules.
Scotland, like England and Wales relies on the IET Wiring Regulations also known as BS7671. Whilst it is not actually law to obey it then we all should, almost invariably, obey it.
I am not 100% sure what laws/rules apply in Northern Ireland but I suspect obeying BS7671 might apply, others on here will no doubt have better information on NI.

In so far as BS7671 applies then your socket you intend to tap off could be one of three types as far as the existing wiring is concerned.
1/ on a radial circuit (usually 2.5 Twin and Earth or greater). Normally with a 15/16/20 amp fuse or breaker at the consumer unit.
2/ On a ring Final Circuit (sometimes incorrectly called a ring main). Normally a complete ring "daisy chain" from consumer unit and back in sequence.
3/ A spur, spurs are usually connected to a ring final circuit but can be from a radial either.
On a radial circuit (including any spur on a radial circuit) it is permissible to wire to any new socket directly unless there is a specific need to fuse down (this is usually achieved via a Fused Connection Unit or a Switched Fused Connection Unit - often these units are incorrectly termed a a "spur" because they are often traditionally found on a spur but really it is the wiring itself which is actually a spur or not, not the connection unit itself.

If a spur is fed from a ring final circuit then additional rules apply.
a spur may be connected directly at the origin of the circuit (the "fuseway") really should be the only conductor in that fuseway besides the two conductors comprising the ring final itself. Using a minimum of 2.5 T & E cable and connecting one single or one twin socket.
Instead you could connect it to the input side of a Fused Connection Unit and then on the output side connect as many sockets as you like because the total limit of current will be 13 amps or less.

In a similar fashion you could connect your spur to any socket on the ring providing that the existing socket is not on a spur itself.
And again you could connect your spur directly to the ring itself (example by using a junction box).
It is considered not best practice to not have more spurs on a ring than items actually on a ring properly but I would not worry too much about that.
I would advise using one of the better known more established makes of outside socket, example "BG".
I would also advise using a double pole switch inside the premises to break the supply to the outside socket in case of damage and water ingress (or if you want to avoid the chance of some miscreant using your electric whilst you away from home for long periods).

Finally, I am assuming your existing circuit is up to speed with modern wiring RCDs etc etc before you attempt any additions or alterations and you hasve the knowledge to do safely.

Cheers for the reply Ebee. I live in Cumbria as mentioned already.

I'm assuming my electrics are up to scratch as it was rewired before by the previous owner, approx 5 years ago.

It's definitely on a final ring circuit in the lounge.

Good idea about a double pole switch to break the supply.

I've just found this on Amazon, what is your opinion on these type of sockets?
 

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At first glance it looks like it might be OK, dependant upon the actual make of course.
You would need to protect the flex against mechanical damage which might mean by placing it sensibly out of reach somewhere.

As it`s effectively a "temporary extension lead" then most of the points I mentioned will not need addressing ,
 
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Youyr circuits all seem to be RCD-protected, so thats one issue out of the way.
As ebee mentioned, the item that you have shown is basically and extension lead, rather than installing a more permanent socket that might be hardwired to one of the inside sockets.

One thing to look out for is that many outside sockets will only close (to make them water-resistant) if a standard plug is inserted. If you are thinking of plugging in one of those integrated plug and power-supplies (aka wall-wart) that come with outside lights, then you'll find that you wont be able to close the front flap!
 
One thing to look out for is that many outside sockets will only close (to make them water-resistant) if a standard plug is inserted. If you are thinking of plugging in one of those integrated plug and power-supplies (aka wall-wart) that come with outside lights, then you'll find that you wont be able to close the front flap!
Good point there Taylor
 
I see you are showing the Union Flag so that narrows it down a bit but whether you in Wales or England alters it a bit because Part P applies in both countries but England relaxed some rules a few years back. If you are in Wales it is notifiable works whilst in England it is not nowadays.

Last time I checked, Cumbria was in England ;)
 
I have my outside socket on a plug and socket arrangement indoors so if there is a fault it is easy to unplug, it also means I can turn it off if I go on holiday so people could use my power while I am away, but as @Taylortwocities points out, I can't use any plug in items which need a thicker plug to normal.

I am considering changed the socket for a smart socket, so I can control left and right of the double socket independently.

Most sockets seem to use a standard socket inside the housing, so the socket can be swapped without the housing. The problem I found was it has a 22 mm hole for gland, and my SWA gland was 20 mm my fault I should have opened them on the trade counter then I could have got an adaptor at the same time.
 
Last time I checked, Cumbria was in England
I do find it a problem, with all the name changes, and boundary changes. I remember going to a house in Saltney just outside Chester and the owner was adamant he was in Cheshire, how he had not realised he paid rates to Flintshire I do not know? But even Chester football club got it wrong, whole of the playing field is in Wales, but car park in England, and they play in English league. They got in trouble over Colvid restrictions.
 
Last time I checked, Cumbria was in England ;)
Harry, I think you are right, it is indeed. I should know because I go there quite often, both as a countryside run and a stopover a night or two to visit various places and sometimes see the lake, depending which way we go or come back.
 

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