Plug hole fallen out of Bath and pipe fallen away below

[Tagged]

Hi folks.

Had a bathroom suite fitted about a year ago. The plumber who did it was hired through a local contractor and wasn't great to be honest I've had a few issues mostly resolved now but this has just happened about 30 mins ago.

Gave my son a bath tonight and pulled the plug out to let the water out and the plug bit and everything came out with it.

Most of the water went under the bath, I'm particularly anxious about this as the reason we got the new bathroom fitted was due to previous owners having a badly installed wet room.

The bit that goes inside the pipe looks to have snapped clearly and I'm assuming this is why it's come out? Also I'm thinking maybe something underneath to support it I'm sure? Incase it comes out again

Some pics -
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https://ibb.co/RDRQCmY
https://ibb.co/YcLVbqL
https://ibb.co/S0DdWwP
https://ibb.co/JtcfKgb
https://ibb.co/DD7BtTc

Can I fix this myself by simply replacing the bit that goes into the pipe and running silicone around the edge again or should I contact a plumber? I'm quite stuck for money at the moment.

Also a badly installed bath panel I'm sure little water has gotten underneath there over time which is frustrating but again cowboys better to do things yourself!

Any help/advice is appreciated thanks so much

 

[terryplumb]

Looks like you need a complete new waste / overflow combo. Not very expensive ,around £10 to £20.
The underside of the bath ( where waste connects ) is unclear in your pic ,but needs to be clean and flat. It appears irregular in shape/ form. Is it ? The length of horizontal waste pipe would benefit from support.

 

[Tagged]

Looks like you need a complete new waste / overflow combo. Not very expensive ,around £10 to £20.
The underside of the bath ( where waste connects ) is unclear in your pic ,but needs to be clean and flat. It appears irregular in shape/ form. Is it ? The length of horizontal waste pipe would benefit from support.

Thank you for the reply.

I've taken a few more pictures for you hope these help. - I've been able to pull off some sort of rubber gasket.

Is this something easy enough to replace myself and why would it have broken in the first place is it common enough?

Thanks!

https://ibb.co/S0DdWwP
https://ibb.co/JtcfKgb
https://ibb.co/DD7BtTc

 

[terryplumb]

Posting pics directly onto this site is easier to view by the way.
Can see now it's just a load of gunk ,probably silicone ,with the rubber seal stuck to it ,and some still left on the bath to remove.
It's simple to renew the lot ,you need some screwdrivers and some silicone ,and a gun to apply it.
Don't know why it has broken ,maybe a fault in the moulding during manufacture ,it's only flimsy plastic.
Possibly the strain of the waste pipe putting undue stress on it ,who knows.

 

[oldbutnotdead]

That ring around the underside of the bath (where the waste fits) looks suspiciously like a big wodge of silicon that your bodging plumber has used, possibly after overtightening the waste to try and get a seal and breaking those lugs. If your contractor is still in business I'd be tempted to give him a ring and invite him to fix it unless he wants a small claims summons for work not of merchantable quality (a bathroom should last a lot longer than a year).
EDIT Your second set of pics confirms the bodge. Yes you need a new bath waste, easy for you to fit yourself, shouldn't need that mass of sealant but check that the flange on the underside of the bath is smooth and flat- if it isn"t then a thin bead of silicon on the rubber washer will work. Also make sure that the fitting is square in the hole (ie the waste body is parallel with the flange on the bath) or it'll never seal, won't be a surprise if the waste pipe is dragging it off square, looking at the sealant you can see where the washer hasn't seated properly

 

[Tagged]

Posting pics directly onto this site is easier to view by the way.
Can see now it's just a load of gunk ,probably silicone ,with the rubber seal stuck to it ,and some still left on the bath to remove.
It's simple to renew the lot ,you need some screwdrivers and some silicone ,and a gun to apply it.
Don't know why it has broken ,maybe a fault in the moulding during manufacture ,it's only flimsy plastic.

Apologies I'll do that for next time! Can I ask is there a reason why I can't renew the piece that goes inside the drain rather than the replace the combo pipe and silicone it back on?

 

[terryplumb]

You can ,if you can find just that part ,with a compatible inlet spigot size to accommodate the overflow tube.
The whole thing comes as a kit and I personally would fit a complete one ,and of better quality. The one you have is " cheap and cheerful" variety.

 

[Tagged]

Makes sense. Thanks for your honesty.

So to fit I just take the old ones off. Plug new ones into pipes, take off old sealant around the bath make sure its dry and clean, no silicone ect.

Gun some silicone around the edges of the new washers and seal them to the bath as tight as I can get it with the spigot then run my finger around the seal to make sure its nice and neat and tight?

 

[terryplumb]

I am guessing that the person who fitted it had some difficulty ,hence the copious amounts of silicone. The rubber seal itself should suffice ,but a bead of silicone on the rubber washer in your case would be wise. Also put a thin bead on the top side of the hole ,under the silver waste ( so between its underside and the bath)
The trap connects to the threaded waste ,and a thin washer in-between makes the seal. There will be one in situ ,but when you seperate the trap from the waste ,inspect it. Make sure it is not twisted and in good condition. They come with the trap ,so you won't get one with a new waste kit ,but they are available seperately
The rest of your description is sound

 

[Tagged]

Perfect, I think I'm just over thinking it to be honest it's probably a lot easier to do than it sounds lol.

Basically clean it up, screw it on, make sure its tight then silicone it top and bottom (under metal part topside bath and under bath where pipe come out)

 

[jeff the gasman]

Looks to me like the waste may bind with the steel bath frame. Worth checking when you reassemble.

 

[terryplumb]

Looks to me like the waste may bind with the steel bath frame. Worth checking when you reassemble.

Looks ok to me ,but worth checking for sure.