Removed back boiler, replace with real fire

[mdj1]

Hi All

We recently had our backboiler removed from the living room, we've been looking at replacing it with a gas effect fire, but wondered if we could actually replace it with a real fire?

 

[Boilerman2]

You will need to remove the Gas Boiler flue liner and teminal, and then get a Heatas registered company in to inspect the chimney they will advise you on what you would need to do to safely install a fire place

 

[expertgasman]

Hi All

We recently had our backboiler removed from the living room, we've been looking at replacing it with a gas effect fire, but wondered if we could actually replace it with a real fire?

Why would you do that. Thet are messy, and contrary to some current comments, no cheaper to run than a decent gas fire. And you can't turn it on for 10 minutes when you come in from the pub, before going to bed!

Having said that, you need to remove the existing liner, regardless of solid fuel or gas.

 

[Tibbot]

Why would you do that. Thet are messy, and contrary to some current comments, no cheaper to run than a decent gas fire. And you can't turn it on for 10 minutes when you come in from the pub, before going to bed!

He might want it because it's a 'real fire'. Your points may be valid, but you could apply the same logic to justify a blow-up doll over the real thing, which most men would still choose despite the grief and expense.

 

[tamz]

Shouldn't really burn blow up dolls Lots of noxious fumes. Better in the bin

Op If you have a real brick chimney there should be no problem. As said get it checked.

 

[expertgasman]

Why would you do that. Thet are messy, and contrary to some current comments, no cheaper to run than a decent gas fire. And you can't turn it on for 10 minutes when you come in from the pub, before going to bed!

He might want it because it's a 'real fire'. Your points may be valid, but you could apply the same logic to justify a blow-up doll over the real thing, which most men would still choose despite the grief and expense.

Fair comment, but in my experience, most recent "converts" have been persuaded by a questionable economics argument. I find that most older folk who have had solid fuel wouldn't entertain them again! But, true, they do look graet, and slightly mesmeric. Fine if you have two chimneys, perhaps.

 

[expertgasman]

[quote="tamz";p="1803583"]Shouldn't really burn blow up dolls Lots of noxious fumes. Better in the bin ]

You should have warned Del Boy Trotter - the plonker.

 

[hoverjumper]

Don't go for an open fire place. A stove like this is less messy and way more efficient...

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I installed a stainless steel flexible flue inside the chimney all the way up to the top. But you might not need to do this if you're sure your chimney is sound.

 

[expertgasman]

Don't forget that you are now REQUIRED to fit a CO alarm (not a bad thing) and a ventilator, on a new S/F install

 

[tamz]

I find that most older folk who have had solid fuel wouldn't entertain them again! But, true, they do look graet, and slightly mesmeric. Fine if you have two chimneys, perhaps.

Most older folk wouldn't go back to them as their memories of coal are getting up early, cleaning the grate out and lighting the fire before the kids got up. Going out to work and coming back to do it all over again.

A solid fuel fire is now a luxury. Most homes have other main forms of heat so IF you feel like lighting a fire it is not so much of a chore.
Unless you have access to a plentiful supply of "free" fuel, they are not cheap to run but do look nice.

 

[expertgasman]

Can't argue with that

 

[mdj1]

Opted for a contemporary gas fire in the end.

http://www.grantandjones.co.uk/Contemp.html

Top Right.

 

[Tibbot]

Congratulations, but if Putin gives the order to shut off the giant lever valve again, don't say I never told you so.

 

[mdj1]

Congratulations, but if Putin gives the order to shut off the giant lever valve again, don't say I never told you so.

lol, at least it will still look nice

 

[expertgasman]

Opted for a contemporary gas fire in the end.

http://www.grantandjones.co.uk/Contemp.html

Top Right.

Mark,

it may look great, but that type of fire is MASSIVELY inefficient. If your chimney has been previously used for solid fuel, yuo'll constantly get d
bits of soot coming down onto it, unless you reline the flue, which will be expensive 'cos it will need 7"(?). You will find it draughty, and when you turn it on in a partially heated room, it can go colder!!

Seriously, we run a fireplace showroom, and do our very best NOT to sell them. It isn't the make thats the problem, it's the type. Did the retailer give you any advice? I'm not just trying to pisz on your parade, they actually should (and will be) be banned. It's ridiculous forcing back boilers off the market, and allowing these.