If I can get another cable to the thermostat receiver can I do this so that it is also still controlled by the timer
N = Neutral
L = Perm Live (new cable to patch panel)
A = Timer Live
B = Switched Live
The wire to A has to come from the CH ON terminal of the timer not the Live terminal.
If you are replacing the existing cable with a 4-core, trace the existing cable back to the junction box and then wire the new cable as follows:
New cable - Old cable Terminal
Brown ------- Permanent Live (This is a new wire)
Blue ----------- Blue
Colour 3 ------ Red
Colour 4 ------ Yellow
At the relay:
Brown to L
Blue to N
Colour 3 to A
Colour 4 to B