Roofers segmenting natural stone roof with bonding gutters?

[armouredmoose]

Hi folks,

We're in a middle terrace house and neighbours have some roofers - we share a natural stone roof - but I notice that their roofers are about to position bonding gutters (the tall ones) to partition our roofs - is this needed? They're also doing it on their other side, who also share the natural stones (so in total three terrace houses sharing a natural stone roof).

We already have a flat bonding gutter interfacing our roof with the other neighbour, who decided to add a slate tile roof years ago - so it clearly makes sense there.

Has anyone seen roofers partitioning a similar roof up using bonding gutters? To me it seems to be opening up gaps in the roof unnecessarily (though I would imagine the bonding gutters would work fine anyway).

Cheers for any help!

 

[DAZB]

If you have any photo's it always help but if you are on good terms with your neighbours then voice your concerns over the bonding gutters as there should be no reason why they cannot slate straight through and the roofers are clearly going to charge them extra for supplying and installing the bonding gutter. It may be they are not aware that it is not needed and have been persuaded by the roofers to have them fitted.

 

[armouredmoose]

Thanks for the response @DAZB - we're on good terms but they're not the type to conduct due dilligence; they've been ripped off before by roofers already, and I see the new roofers have removed a lot of healthy timber already. They didn't inform us at all prior to the work. New roofers are accredited and all that, so I'm hoping it would be fine - but just can't see why else someone would break up a roof with gutters like this...

 

[catlad]

but just can't see why else someone would break up a roof with gutters like this...

Stupidity!

 

[armouredmoose]

Ok an update with pics: the bonding gutter is getting put in and on our (left) side there seems to be great big holes, whilst on theirs the stones are flush to the gutter.

Granted the roof was a bit undulating before, all the stone coverage was still fine and there weren’t any gaps at all.

Any thoughts ? I feel like we should be asking them to return things to how they were - but I heard angle grinders today. I have a feeling they’ve taken the stones crossing the party wall and cut them to fit the neighbours.

Do I have rights to make them reposition the gutters on their side?

 

[ree]

OP,
Is this happening on your front & rear roof planes?
Any sagging could have been easily remedied once the stones were off.
There's no need for any Bonding gutters - as above, it would have been a simple matter to pick up the gauge and tile through.
If you go in your loft you can check the top of your party wall has not been disturbed?

Your call but you have every right to make the roofers make it as it was - to reinstate.
Have you given the roofers or neighbour's any kind of permissions for anything?

 

[armouredmoose]

Hi @ree thanks for the info. It’s both front and back, and both ends of their part of the terrace roof - effectively slicing up a stone roof of three houses. Original roof section looked like this (a bit wobbly but it’s very old, this pic from when we had our roof done - theirs is on the right of the scaffold):

No major signs of disturbance on the party wall, then again we’ve only just had our roof done a month ago I think the felt may have been taken up and replaced.

They didn’t ask permission no, but they did ask the other side (I looked and the new gutter on that side is practically solely on their neighbours house). The occupier only part-owns the house and isn’t paying for the works and has told me they’re really not bothered about what happens to the roof. Going to ask today to get to the bottom of why they were even put in.

 

[Koolpc]

I wouldnt be happy. See what the finish will be like i guess.

 

[ree]

OP,
I would be interested in what happens next.
Your old pic shows a hump at the party wall but thats quite common - it could have been taken care of first when the flags were off the roof on your new roof - & then when the roofers took the neighbour's flags off.

 

[armouredmoose]

thanks for the responses folks - the work is finished now and I’m pretty happy about it in the end:

- the stones have been cut to be neat along the gutters on both sides
- gutters were needed as the coursing was slightly different between the roofs, which weren’t married up so well

So while it’s not quite what I’ve seen before in this area, it looks to make sense. Just wish they’d have come round to ask first!