Saxo engine number

[Ian84]

Can anyone tell me where I can the find the engine number on a 1.1 Saxo X is it on the front of the engine block or somewhere else? The reason I ask is because i`ve found a number on the front of the block but it doesn`t match the engine number on the vehicle check from the AA

 

[Johndug]

The engine number may be on the left hand end of the front face of the block, but some have the number stamped on a machined flat at the flywheel end. If the number doesn't match up with the V5, then it's had an engine swop.

 

[chambsesf]

If it has a V8 in, then it's definitely had an engine swap.

 

[Ian84]

What the F a V8 in a saxo! I wish! the only number I found on the engine is machined into the front of the block so I guess its had an engine change at some time but it don`t matter because it goes like s**t of a shovel, at least the VIN number matches. why would an engine be swapped?

 

[Johndug]

Any number of reasons. If the cambelt snapped, for instance it would cause a lot of damage. An easy way out would be to visit a breaker for a swop engine.

 

[david and julie]

it don`t matter because it goes like s**t of a shovel,

Sounds like it may even end up with another one eventually then.

 

[Ian84]

Someone trying to say that i`ve got a heavy right foot?! I cruise between 60 and 70 down a motorway and 75 pushing 80 to overtake a sunday afternoon driver. And on the subject of engine swaps my old mans polo had 3 engine changes! and it required more oil than petrol!

 

[kevplumb]

 

[AdamW]

Can anyone tell me where I can the find the engine number on a 1.1 Saxo X

it goes like s**t of a shovel

Perhaps there lies your answer as to the identity of the mystery engine! Does it by any chance have "VTS" logos on it?

I jest of course, but there have been instances of people doing such things with certain cars in the past: I am aware of a crashed Ford Sierra 1.6 that was found to have a Cosworth engine (undeclared on the insurance of course!)

 

[Ian84]

Its definitely the 1124cc engine but something doesn`t look right in the area surrounding the ecu so it may have been modified in someway because its a bit quick for a 60bhp engine. I hate to sound dumb but how can you tell if the ecu`s been chipped? apart from the obvious and citroens 0-60 stats are 11.2 seconds and this does it quicker than that!

 

[AdamW]

I have heard that one way to tell if it has been chipped is to get a garage to plug their computer gubbins into it. As I understand it, when you chip an engine, the ECU flags up a "checksum error", as you are now using a non-standard chip.

Perhaps there is an easier way (would a new chip have a "Superchips" logo on it maybe?)

Saying that, I didn't think ECU chips had that great an effect, 2 or 3bhp perhaps. And if they had done any more than that (new cams etc) then they would probably have sold it as a "modified" Saxo. It's a mystery!