Screws into doors

[Keitai]

Not really that used to using my impact driver drill to put in screws into hinges and closers etc into a fire door so struggled with no pilot hole. I usually use my combi drill with pilot hole. Anyway he said I was bouncing the drill and rounding off the screws. Any technique advice?

 

[foxhole]

Practice .

 

[mattylad]

Put the bloody drill down and use a screwdriver.

Drill a pilot hole first.
Impact drill indeed!

 

[HERTS P&D]

Give up the diy work that you are charging people for!

Andy

 

[johnny2007]

No impact drill on hinges.
Pilot hole, then either hand screwdriver of the correct kind (PZ or PH) or drill driver with clutch on low setting and again correct bit then tighten by hand.

 

[Why Not Indeed]

Dare I ask what the fire door inspection says about your handiwork?

 

[chirpychippy]

I use an impact drill on everything, I know I don't need to and am aware that they are annoying, however....

The reason i do is because all my bits are HEX, Hex wood bits, hex Hss bits, hex Snappy countersink bits, hex spade bits, hex Auger bits, then hex adaptors with every configuration of PZ1 PZ2 PZ3 PH1 PH2 PH3, it's all about speed, however....

You never drive a screw using an impact driver without piloting first on anything that is "Finish".

 

[opps]

You never drive a screw using an impact driver without piloting first on anything that is "Finish".

Yeah.. but unfortunately many people do. Drive a by 50mm screw into the floor- yeah use an impact driver. A 15 mm screw into a mdf door... why?

 

[chirpychippy]

Yeah.. but unfortunately many people do. Drive a by 50mm screw into the floor- yeah use an impact driver. A 15 mm screw into a mdf door... why?

That is because they don't understand Finesse

 

[lostinthelight]

Best to get a set these bits to pilot otherwise driving screws into mdf causes a volcano effect where the surface rises up to make way for the volume of the screw

Trend Craftpro Quick Release Drill Bit Guide Set

Need accurate, self-centred pilot hole drilling for hinges or lock faceplates? Look no further than this Trend CraftPro drill bit guide set – it contains 2.4mm, 2.8mm and 3.6mm bits for No.6, No.8 and No.10 screw sizes.Suitable for use on a range of materials including timber, ply, MDF and...

www.toolstation.com

 

[johnny2007]

Best to get a set these bits to pilot otherwise driving screws into mdf causes a volcano effect where the surface rises up to make way for the volume of the screw

Trend Craftpro Quick Release Drill Bit Guide Set

Need accurate, self-centred pilot hole drilling for hinges or lock faceplates? Look no further than this Trend CraftPro drill bit guide set – it contains 2.4mm, 2.8mm and 3.6mm bits for No.6, No.8 and No.10 screw sizes.Suitable for use on a range of materials including timber, ply, MDF and...

www.toolstation.com

Waste of money.
A bradawl marking the wood in the hole's centre and a pilot hole is all you need.

 

[lostinthelight]

Waste of money.
A bradawl marking the wood in the hole's centre and a pilot hole is all you need.

We'll have to disagree on that then because its faster and more accurate especially if one is lacking somewhat in the skill department

 

[johnny2007]

We'll have to disagree on that then because its faster and more accurate especially if one is lacking somewhat in the skill department

I agree with this, but... have you seen who the op is???
Not much of a detailed finish carpenter...

 

[freddiemercurystwin]

Yes lacking somewhat in the skill department.

 

[opps]

Waste of money.
A bradawl marking the wood in the hole's centre and a pilot hole is all you need.

As I hurtle towards my dotage, I have noticed that from time to time, if I use a bradawl, particularly if the lighting is poor , I might be out by a mm or so.

I did purchase the Trend set from screwfix.

Trend CraftPro CR/QR/DBG/SET Quick-Release Drill Bit Guide Set 3 Pieces - Screwfix

Order online at Screwfix.com. Quick-release guides allowing accurate self-centred pilot hole drilling for hinges and lock faceplates. ¼" hex shank. HSS drill bits for longer life. Spring-loaded to ensure drill bits retract safely. Easy to dismantle for cleaning and drill bit replacement...

www.screwfix.com

They were rubbish, they did centre correctly, but would only drill to a depth of about 5mm. I did post about my disappointment on this site and @jobandknock kindly sent me a link to the better quality Trend ones. I haven't gotten around to buying those yet, but will the next time I need to hang some doors.