skimming around 45 angles

[regsmyth]

I have a couple of external corners to skim around - they're both 45 degrees.
I've done the plasterboard and thought I'd be able to open up a thin skim bead, but it's too stiff to bend, so I thought I cut off one "wing", then it went into a spiral and kinked when I tried to straighten it, so that's in the bin.
Then I thought I'd use some micromesh, which I more successfully tried to open out, but it loses it's straightness and I'm sure it would look naff if I try to skim it.
So now I think I'll stick some scrim on the corner, fix a batten to one side, skim up to it, and when it's gone off a bit, remove the batten and do the other side.
Is this the right way to go?

 

[trowelmonkey1]

hi reg,

just use some 3mm stop bead, fix it to one side and overhang it by 3mm giving you something to skim up to both sides.

make sense?

 

[regsmyth]

umm......no.
But are you saying you can get a really tiny stop bead, a bit like a normal one without one side?

 

[Richard C]

That's it, thin coat stop bead as TM suggest;
http://www.expamet.co.uk/thincoat-stop-bead

Don’t know why but this little fella seems to cause a lot of confusion & many seem to think your referring to a PB stop edge bead.

Not everyone stocks it & it can be tiresome tracking some down & the price some BM’s will quote you initially is just silly.

I also use it around window reavals against the frame & on internal obtuse angles as well.

 

[trowelmonkey1]

glad you concur rich

i pick mine up from wickes, near by, as cheap as anywhere else i've found so far.

 

[regsmyth]

I also use it around window reavals against the frame & on internal obtuse angles as well.

I reckon that's cheating.


But a great tip. Avoids wobbly lines down the edges of the reveal. But you wouldn't want any condensation on the plaster otherwise the beading could rust.

Thanks chaps, will see if I can get some.

 

[Richard C]

i pick mine up from wickes, near by, as cheap as anywhere else i've found so far.

Strange my Wickes doesn’t seem to stock them although I haven’t checked for a while!

I reckon that's cheating.
But a great tip. Avoids wobbly lines down the edges of the reveal. But you wouldn't want any condensation on the plaster otherwise the beading could rust.

It’s galvanized, it won’t rust & I’ve never had any problems; I even keep my stock of beading on a hard standing in the garden & some of it is there for months before it gets used! Reveals are always narrower than my trowel & the problem I find is it’s not so easy to draw a nice straight line against the frame as it is down the corner of 2 adjacent walls; but perhaps it’s just me. There is also so much light around the reveal that any slight wobble will be quiet easily noticed; fitting the bead makes it an absolute doddle to skim between the frame & an angle bead on the external edges.

 

[regsmyth]

[quote="Richard C";p="1272179"[It’s galvanized, it won’t rust & I’ve never had any problems; I even keep my stock of beading on a hard standing in the garden & some of it is there for months before it gets used![/quote]

I'm not picking a fight, but you must have witnessed rusty galv beadings internally - esp old houses where there is moisture in the walls etc...and around cold spots by the windows.

As you say, outside in the air it will last for years. I think when there is any moisture in a wall, the presence of salts in the wall/plaster makes for a much more corrosive environment.

 

[Richard C]

but you must have witnessed rusty galv beadings internally - esp old houses where there is moisture in the walls etc...and around cold spots by the windows.

As you say, outside in the air it will last for years. I think when there is any moisture in a wall, the presence of salts in the wall/plaster makes for a much more corrosive environment.

No offence taken &, honestly, can’t say I have . Most of my work is renovations in older properties before beading was even used; I occasionally come across galv. steel lathe on cast in situ lintels though & that's always OK. I’ve only been at it around 5 years & so am a relative newbie, perhaps I should switch to plastic stop bead against the frame in the reveals.

 

[trowelmonkey1]

having the same thing today rich, trying to make a nice flat reveal, can be a right pig, going to use some stop bead at the frame on the next one and see how much better it is.

 

[dazdel]

if you know what you are doing you dont need to use stop skim beads on reveals..........ffs

 

[Richard C]

 

[Nige F]

if you know what you are doing you dont need to use stop skim beads on reveals..........ffs

Indeed ... and in Spain they are Master Plasterers... I particularly like the "spanish Artex" we have over here

 

[trowelmonkey1]

 

[dazdel]

oh dear.......touched a nerve there, funny how the truth hurts