Slipped slates on gable verge? How big a job?

[Rh1464]

Hi all.

The recent winds battered our into wind gable ends and one of the verges in particular has suffered. The house consists of a double gable, one of which has much narrower cut slates on the verge, which I’m guessing because they are smaller havent as much to secure them to the roof?

There is no dry verge, which is something I’m looking to remedy, but as a separate job, and that may well be one that I am happy to do myself once the tiles are back in place and sorted.

I’m wondering how big a job it is to replace the slipped slates and the couple that are lost? I want an idea so that when the roofers are giving quotes I know what seems reasonable as a description of what needs doing. Will they need to strip the whole verge and then work up reattaching etc? If they do that, is it worth installing a dry verge then onto the battens, as my potential plan is to install a retrofit one that will just attach to the existing bargeboard? If stripping the whole thing, I presume it will likely be a case of scaffolding? Or is it the sort of location that could be done from a ladder? I’m really just wanting opinions on how big a job, and what should be mentioned in the quotes as needing doing!

Many thanks for any help, info, ideas etc!

 

[datarebal]

Not a big job , access will be what costs more than the repair

 

[Rh1464]

Thanks for the reply, appreciate it. Though the access bit would be the pain part of it.

I’ve had a few saying that they will lead tag them back in place and use CT1 adhesive too.

Does that seem like an appropriate solution. I know the lead tag is what I’d expect, but I’d always read that be wary of anyone who mentions gluing or using sealant to hold any slates in place? I guess the main issue is this is on the verge, and some of the slipped/missing tiles are pretty narrow, so there isn’t and wasn’t a lot holding them in place?

I’ve also had someone say that they would have to remove the verge and then build it back up? Does that seem reasonable, or over the top?

I’m planning on getting a continuous dry verge added along the verges afterwards too, which should ultimately prevent it being anywhere near as big a problem as it was. Any comment on whether there is any problem using a retrofit to bargeboard one, other than perhaps it is more visible? Stripping all the verges to add the usual verge seems very overkill and expensive? Is there any actual advantage (again other than look) to all that effort?

Again, thanks for any input. Much appreciated!

 

[robinbanks]

Note that lead "tags" do have the slight detrimental side effect that they look bloody awful. Consider using Hall Hooks instead for a much more invisible, longer lasting repair

None of your verge slates there are what I'd consider narrow; it's been formed with slate-and-half, which is pleasing to see rather than the roofers having alternated e.g. 75/25. What does interest me though, is how the slate-and-halfs were fixed, because it's difficult to see any obvious nail holes on the verge edge.
Can you get a better, closer up pic of the damage, particularly the upper one? Got a friend with a drone?


I would be wary some someone who mentions glueing slates in place as the primary method of retaining them because slate is a sedimentary rock and it comes apart in layers. You often find, a few years after you glue a slate in, it's slipped out again and there is a big blob of glue either on it, or the adjacent slate, with a nice thin layer of slate that peeled off the other slate

 

[Rh1464]

Thanks for the recommendation, the hall hooks do look a lot less intrusive visually! Are they also better at holding them?

There are holes for nails as one that has fallen off has the hole and I can see a hole through one which has rotated out of position.

Any advice regarding dry verge? Retrofit or lift all verges and add then? That option seems like turning what would otherwise be a simple job into quite a big one?

I've just had a look at how hall hooks and lead strip would work and trying to work how they would be applied on a verge? I'm struggling to think where the baton would be visible after removing the slate? Because it's the verge, is it not just tile you see below in my case?

Thanks again.