Slow moving bathroom waste

[PrenticeBoyofDerry]

Hi all, I have an issue with a shower tray waste backing up, when bath tub is emptying. It seems the shower, bath and basin are connected to the same outlet point (pipes under tiled floor). The waste does drain away but backs up into shower with foul/contaminated water when bath is emptied, not so much the basin but there is evidence of them being all connected. I assume there is a part blockage. I cannot get rods down, because of tee and elbow connections. Considering a drain unblocker solution, but not convinced these will work, as there is waste movement and possible just drains out, without removing debris. Any advise on how to tackle this, possible products or tools that could help. Your kind help is very much appreciated.

 

[blup]

Try a plunger to break up the blockage (shower tray). It might be siphonage as well given the number of outlets connected to the same waste. A flexible waste pipe cleaning rod can get through the traps if used with care.

 

[PrenticeBoyofDerry]

Try a plunger to break up the blockage (shower tray). It might be siphonage as well given the number of outlets connected to the same waste. A flexible waste pipe cleaning rod can get through the traps if used with care.

Tried a plunger, doesn't help I have rods but cannot get passed a tee joint in the pipework. I suspect the blockage is on the final leg of the pipework before exiting to the soil stack and after the all three appliance connections. I would try rodding from outside but it's an internal built stack.

 

[blup]

Tried a plunger, doesn't help I have rods but cannot get passed a tee joint in the pipework. I suspect the blockage is on the final leg of the pipework before exiting to the soil stack and after the all three appliance connections. I would try rodding from outside but it's an internal built stack.

You would probably need to break into the waste and/or soil pipe with the consequent need to replace plasterboard/brick or whatever you have to get through. I assume you have ruled out a blockage in the drain underground.

 

[PrenticeBoyofDerry]

You would probably need to break into the waste and/or soil pipe with the consequent need to replace plasterboard/brick or whatever you have to get through. I assume you have ruled out a blockage in the drain underground.

I haven't ruled anything out, there is no issue with the toilet, no backing up at the shower or slow drainage. So I assume and it's only an assumption that the stack and lower drainage are free from blockage. I suspect it is at the final leg of the waste pipe. All backing up is at the shower tray only. It only backs up when evacuating water from a fullish bath. If I flush WC at same time as emptying the bath, it doesn't change the water levels in shower tray, but if I empty basin at same time as bath, water levels increase in shower tray. First floor bathroom, no issues on ground floor appliances. Was hoping a chemical unblocking solution may help, but finding the right product that will help is an issue, as it's not a full on blockage, as the water will discharge quiet quickly but does back up into shower. It's a little bit odd as the water backing up has more debris in it than I would expect from grey bathroom waste.

 

[Murdochcat]

I assume the water drains away slowly

I recently used Mr Muscle and it worked like a treat (we had concealed joints too)

 

[Madrab]

Try one of these with all other outlets blocked

(plunger pump) > if not then try one of these

(wet vac)

 

[PrenticeBoyofDerry]

I assume the water drains away slowly

I recently used Mr Muscle and it worked like a treat (we had concealed joints too)

Yes it draining, but backing up into the shower when a full bath is emptied. If the shower was in use only (no bath water). Then there doesn't look to be an issue with drainage. The bath and shower are separate from each other.

 

[PrenticeBoyofDerry]

Try one of these with all other outlets blocked

View attachment 352350 (plunger pump) > if not then try one of these

View attachment 352351 (wet vac)

That would lead me to another question, how would you suggest the overflow of both basin and bath where capped?

 

[Madrab]

Depends - tape them up - ask 2 people to help with hands and damp cloths

 

[PrenticeBoyofDerry]

Depends - tape them up - ask 2 people to help with hands and damp cloths

Was just wondering if there's any special gadgets out there that would help with the process. I need to get inventive then, it seems.

 

[Madrab]

Was just wondering if there's any special gadgets out there that would help with the process. I need to get inventive then, it seems.

I guess there are but it depends on the type of overflow. If it's a basin's plain round overflow then a pipe plug could work or maybe even a bottle stopper


A bath overflow would probably be more complicated unless it's the ones that hold the plug, duct tape may work.

 

[diy_fun_uk]

What about trying something like this to see what's going on?

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[PrenticeBoyofDerry]

What about trying something like this to see what's going on?

Industrial Endoscope Inspection Camera 10 meters rigid cable

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It looks useful, I would need an android version. But I am up against at least two tee joints and a bend, but thanks for the help

 

[PrenticeBoyofDerry]

I guess there are but it depends on the type of overflow. If it's a basin's plain round overflow then a pipe plug could work or maybe even a bottle stopper

View attachment 352853
A bath overflow would probably be more complicated unless it's the ones that hold the plug, duct tape may work.

Okay you have me thinking now of a solution. Cheers Madrab