Soil pipe fittings

[Snowyy]

I have a 110 soil pipe that connected onto my toilet with the use of a straight pan connect and then goes into a branch/tee on the outside wall, moving the toilet a metre to the left would I need to fit a double socket elbow to the existing pipe or do I need to remove that bit of pipe and fit a single socket elbow, I assume that it’s good practice to have the waste flow through pipes/fittings or hat are inside the next pipe/fitting if that makes sense. Would a single socket elbow be long enough to connect to the tee outside or would I need to fit a socket bit of pipe into the tee and then the single socket elbow into this

 

[ReJect]

If you are moving your toilet position one metre, and assuming your existing loo connects directly into the soil stack tee (junction), then you will have a large distance to work with.
You can use (push fit or solvent) a double socket bend, or use a single socket bend and then use pipe with solvent socket end.
A tip for 110 pipe through wall is to use white pipe if it is to be visible. Terrible especially to use black, brown, etc pipes inside if on show, as some idiots do which then requires painting

 

[Snowyy]

If you are moving your toilet position one metre, and assuming your existing loo connects directly into the soil stack tee (junction), then you will have a large distance to work with.
You can use (push fit or solvent) a double socket bend, or use a single socket bend and then use pipe with solvent socket end.
A tip for 110 pipe through wall is to use white pipe if it is to be visible. Terrible especially to use black, brown, etc pipes inside if on show, as some idiots do which then requires painting

thanks for the reply, as you can see in the pic below there is a pipe that sticks out so far, my concern was that a single socket elbow would be too short and the elbow piece would not align with the pan elbow and my other concern was that if I used a double elbow then there is a leak factor there as a small amount of water would be sat at the bottom of seal as it’s leaving the female into a male pipe although surly it would be ok as why else would they sell double socket elbows? I plan on boxing it in.

 

[ReJect]

Ah! I assumed you had earlier meant moving the soil pipe outside to another hole position in wall.
Although, - why not do that?

If you are just boxing pipe in, you can use small 90 degree bend and if necessary cut a little into wall around the existing pipe to allow space for end of bend.
Solvent weld fitting will take less width at socket sides, but you could also just use push fit.

 

[lostinthelight]

Don't forget there's the height of toilet outlet in relation to the soil opening to get the right amount of fall to consider

 

[Snowyy]

Ah! I assumed you had earlier meant moving the soil pipe outside to another hole position in wall.
Although, - why not do that?

If you are just boxing pipe in, you can use small 90 degree bend and if necessary cut a little into wall around the existing pipe to allow space for end of bend.
Solvent weld fitting will take less width at socket sides, but you could also just use push fit.

yep just worried if it was partly in the wall it would cause problems if it leaked as I would be unaware, also other Soil pipes I have seen they all use a male going into a female then into another female etc and thought this was so water flowed through without sitting in seals, which could go brittle/shrink over time due to standing water having bleach etc

 

[Snowyy]

Don't forget there's the height of toilet outlet in relation to the soil opening to get the right amount of fall to consider

yes pan on new toilet is 175mm to middle and existing is 200, toilet will be sat on plywood and vinyl bringing it up slightly but I planned on removing some of the wall and skirting under existing pipe so I can angle it further down as you can see it has a fair decline, I’m hopeful that I can get it get a decline from the toilet to the outlet by doing this and still keep a decline from the outlet to the soil pipe

 

[lostinthelight]

Isn't the angle of the soil through the wall set by the angle of the branch into the stack, what's the height to its centre at the mo?

 

[ReJect]

yep just worried if it was partly in the wall it would cause problems if it leaked as I would be unaware, also other Soil pipes I have seen they all use a male going into a female then into another female etc and thought this was so water flowed through without sitting in seals, which could go brittle/shrink over time due to standing water having bleach etc

Normally ideal if the flow of water goes male into female, but not essential. Solvent weld no difference though.
The joint in wall will not leak if done correctly and definitely solvent weld will be permanent seal if glued correctly.
The soil pipe at 1 metre length will be okay if just barely falling

 

[Snowyy]

Isn't the angle of the soil through the wall set by the angle of the branch into the stack, what's the height to its centre at the mo?

200 to existing, this is pic of the outside, if it’s al push fit it should just angle down giving me a slight fall. Does the outside look like push fit? Is there a noticeable difference between that and solvent weld

 

[lostinthelight]

Its Push, solvent doesnt have bulge at the top of each socket that contains the seal . If the pipe doesnt lower the toilet needs to be raised by 25mm for the difference in height + 12.5mm for the fall over 1m length

 

[Snowyy]

Its Push, solvent doesnt have bulge at the top of each socket that contains the seal . If the pipe doesnt lower the toilet needs to be raised by 25mm for the difference in height + 12.5mm for the fall over 1m length

should lower though with a good tug though once more of the wall underneath has been removed?

 

[lostinthelight]

got to be careful tugging on old seals