Spin-offs?

[Brigadier]

Given the enormous brainpower and money that has been poured into Covid vaccines in 2020, have there been any ancilliary knowledge leaps, or other non-CV-related treatments that have come from this?
Or leaps in progress in other areas, that otherwise would have been expected to have taken years?

 

[Deleted member 18243]

Yes - we have lately seen so many things that we haven't seen before and the authorities now know much better how the population will react to certain circumstances. They now know how gullible most people are; which brainwashing techniques work; the best methods of scaremongering, and what happens when you drop traditional law enforcement.

A lot of folk would call that progress!

 

[noseall]

Given the enormous brainpower and money that has been poured into Covid vaccines in 2020, have there been any ancilliary knowledge leaps, or other non-CV-related treatments that have come from this?
Or leaps in progress in other areas, that otherwise would have been expected to have taken years?

I have not had a sniffle, sneeze, bad head or cough since masks and distancing became the norm. I'm guessing it is over 11 months since I've had anything like a cold.

Every cloud eh...

 

[SirGalahad]

Given the enormous brainpower and money that has been poured into Covid vaccines in 2020, have there been any ancilliary knowledge leaps, or other non-CV-related treatments that have come from this?
Or leaps in progress in other areas, that otherwise would have been expected to have taken years?

Expect the groundwork on mRNA therapies by Katalin Kariko to win a Nobel Prize. It's been decades in the making. mRNA time has finally come.

I think it reflects more that there are brilliant teams of scientists working on a range of therapies but when they are all told to focus on one huge challenge it's amazing just how quick and how much they can achieve - the right incentives are paramount.

 

[dontbelieveawordofit]

next bombshell will be them combining the covid ‘vaccine’ and flu jab.
one shot or nothing .
more coercive control.
watch this space.

 

[dontbelieveawordofit]

Expect the groundwork on mRNA therapies by Katalin Kariko to win a Nobel Prize. It's been decades in the making. mRNA time has finally come.

I think it reflects more that there are brilliant teams of scientists working on a range of therapies but when they are all told to focus on one huge challenge it's amazing just how quick and how much they can achieve - the right incentives are paramount.

some people will believe absolutely anything. you will

 

[Deleted member 18243]

some people will believe absolutely anything. you will

Blinded by science!

 

[Brigade77]

Given the enormous brainpower and money that has been poured into Covid vaccines in 2020, have there been any ancilliary knowledge leaps, or other non-CV-related treatments that have come from this?
Or leaps in progress in other areas, that otherwise would have been expected to have taken years?

Are you asking if they discovered something as ground breaking as penicillin?

That's not how 'big pharma' works. To understand how 'big pharma' works you need to do some serious reading into how 'big pharma' works.

 

[IT Minion]

The practical application of mRNA, as SirG says, is the big one. It's effectively 3D printing for vaccines, once you've mapped the object you want you can print a non-dangerous version of it in days.

Another smaller, but significant, winner has been the demonstration of the UKs world leading research system. Recovery has been able to prove or disprove treatments for Covid-19 and has saved tens of thousands of lives. It'd be nice if the rest of the world got it's act together and laid the groundwork to do the same.

 

[Notch7]

Given the enormous brainpower and money that has been poured into Covid vaccines in 2020, have there been any ancilliary knowledge leaps, or other non-CV-related treatments that have come from this?
Or leaps in progress in other areas, that otherwise would have been expected to have taken years?

Covid has been an existential threat, so the motivation has been high.

Money has been no object, so vaccine development, vaccine testing and vaccine manufacture have all been worked on concurrently.


What would happen if the same global effort was put into cancer?

 

[Brigade77]

What would happen if the same global effort was put into cancer?

Big pharma has no interest in developing anything it cannot patent. Therefore, anything that can help, anything that could lead us along that path, is pushed to the very back & often dismissed by ridicule.

Read up on 'big pharma', it gets really scary . . . .

 

[IT Minion]

Covid has been an existential threat, so the motivation has been high.

Money has been no object, so vaccine development, vaccine testing and vaccine manufacture have all been worked on concurrently.


What would happen if the same global effort was put into cancer?

Nothing much.

Cancer is caused by dozens/thousands of different viruses, genetic risk factors and environmental causes. mRNA vaccines could make the success of the HPV vaccine (effectively eliminating Cervical cancer) quicker and easier to do, but it's a question of scale. You can 'cure' one form of cancer but never touch the others.

 

[Brigade77]

The practical application of mRNA, as SirG says, is the big one. It's effectively 3D printing for vaccines, once you've mapped the object you want you can print a non-dangerous version of it in days.

Another smaller, but significant, winner has been the demonstration of the UKs world leading research system. Recovery has been able to prove or disprove treatments for Covid-19 and has saved tens of thousands of lives. It'd be nice if the rest of the world got it's act together and laid the groundwork to do the same.

So, what you saying is the UK has solved all this nonsense & saved humanity by the application of science?

Name one drug or treatment, that all this research has discovered, that is available open source.

 

[IT Minion]

So, what you saying is the UK has solved all this nonsense & saved humanity by the application of science?

Name one drug or treatment, that all this research has discovered, that is available open source.

Dexamethasone.

If you're not up to speed on it, the patents expired decades ago, it costs a couple of pounds per course and it's the most effective pharmacological treatment there is (at the moment).

It also disproved remdesivir as a treatment, which cost tens of thousands for a course and turned out not to work. There's nothing not to like here.

 

[durhamplumber]

Blinded by science!

Blinded by stupidity in your case.