"stealing" from nature? legalities?

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ok.. so what are the legalities to taking stuff from nature?
for example you have a wood burning stove and go walking in whatever forests you have nearby and bring back some branches etc snapped off dead trees?
or you go for a drive and a walk in the welsh hills and bring back a couple of big pieces of slate for decorating the garden.
or go to the beach and bring back a bag full of pebbles for those poofy dishes the missus strewns all round the house..
 
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Its "stealing". End off story... and illegal
and not from nature but from someones property or council property!

If you want to take stuff then ask for permission first.
 
I think one can be selective here without sounding hypocritical or contradicting ones self.

I would not take stone/ slate or pebbles. If everyone did that, there would be fewer, which could lead to erosion of the soil.

However, I can't see the problem in taking fallen branches for burning. But I wouldn't harvest the wood as that may damage the habitat.

I have been many times out in the country and picked mushrooms and fruit. I don't see that this would cause any damage.
 
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I have a wood burner and am always on the lookout for timber. Some people will quiet happily let you take fall n timber, but then others get very arsey if the catch you on there land, and even more so if your carrying a chainsaw.

Near me theres a large quarry, round the back edge there a c road and theres a huge trunk of oak on the ground, been there years, im slowing disassembling it with my 16" chainsaw (its about 8 metres long and a metre across). i KNOW the quarry doesnt give a toss about it. On the other hand, I pass some woods where felling has taken place, and you can see some of it has been logged. You can bet they would object if i had some.

So technically its theft, but some will call the police and some wont. And dont EVER log on National Trust or Forestry Commission land, thats asking for trouble.
 
It's a bit like "wild camping". It's illegal in England (apart from Dartmoor for some reason :confused: ) since it is deemed as trespassing. However, woth the exception of some National Parks, if you are out of sight and mind, then it's rarely a problem - provided you leave the area the same or tidier than you found it.
 
What a good question.....

There's quite a bit of oil left under the planet's crust, isn't there? What about cod? can i help myself?... there's millions of the blighters, surely? or is this about who owns the land?... in which case... you have to ask permission... i mean... let's walk into a jewellers and forage for gold...... loads of the stuff!

This whole questions is about the scale of demand for earth's resources.... 500 years ago with a population of 500 million (or whatever) mother earth could cope.... now with 7billion looming and greed out of control.... this planet is doomed!
 
One tactic I use is Blitzkrieg Logging. You walk round empty handed and size the job up - target a tree thats a single trunk - beech are good. Far away from buildings, not too far from the road but not on a busy road, and preferable in the middle of nowhere on a back road. And room enough to fall down straight without tangling up on tree branches in the fall path.

Then you go back with your chainsaw in the dark and take it down, two swift cuts in a Z shape and RLF

Leave it a week, get back there on a sunday morning where theres no one around, log it quickly into liftable sections

Return a few days later with a trailer, and no chainsaw. Get it loaded up asap and gone. I view it as Tree Kidnapping :D
 
Thats theft Lincbodger for which you deserve the full weight of the law to punish you.
People like you are parasites!
 
Thats theft Lincbodger for which you desreve the full weight of the law to punish you.
People like you are parasites!

I assumed he was joking.... if not, then i agree... you're a crim... and bragging about it is even worse!!
 
I have been many times out in the country and picked mushrooms

i hear ya brother, peace out and much love


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after harvesting said shrooms i recommend Planet Gong (google it!)
 
i think the problem you have is people put different values on things
yes it may be a rotten tree iff the owner want habitat for lesser spotted elephant maybe thats ideal

you harvest wild truffles then maybe it dosnt matter as the owner has no use for them

the owner wants a cultivated but neat coppiced woodland then taking winfall or the odd bit off pruning is welcome
the owner has a large woodburner and his stock gets stolen not good

the simple answer is ask if its not yours as you dont know what its value is ;)
 
the legal line is if you are taking something from the wild for your own use then it is allowable. if you are taking it to sell on or to profit from then it is theft. an example is heather. pick some lucky heather for yourself and its allowable. pick it to sell then its theft. doesnt apply to things specifically covered by the wildlife and countryside act like bluebells etc
 
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