Stud wall.?

[Bad]

Hi I would like to install a small stud wall in a small room, the room has a laminate floor laid already, can I screw the stud wall base plate to this or should I cut the laminate floor take it up and screw the base plate to the screeded floor below?? Also in the room the part I wish to section off has two, what look like lintels can I screw the head plate to this as it would be ideal ? Many thanks Barry

 

[mattylad]

Cut the laminate floor before fixing the stud wall to whats below.
Otherwise it will be extremely hard to cut the laminate to remove it.
Laminate wears out and will need replacing at some point - do you want to have to remove a wall to do this? lol

 

[Bad]

That's a very good point! Lol!

 

[ree]

Is this a ground floor or upper floor?

Whats below the "screeded floor"?

Any pipes or elec cables below the floor? Any underfloor heating?

"What look like lintels" could be boxing-in for pipework etc.?

If they are true lintels over knock-thro's then they are likely to be steel but they could still be used for fixing the top plate.

 

[Bad]

Hi this is ground floor, the part to be sectioned off has flat roof above it, the other part of the room has bathroom above, the electric meter is on the wall in this room and you can see all of the cables go up into ceiling the gas meter on the other so you can see the gas pipes and this should all go from there to the kitchen under the hallway away from the room. I've uploaded some photos.I've just taken down the plasterboard which was attached poorly to the ceiling and taken a photo of each lintel maybe this will help to give and idea of what I would like to achieve. Many thanks Barry

 

[ree]

Thanks for the pics.

I'm afraid that you will have to open up the flat, bottom layer of plaster board on the lintel that you propose to use - only then will you be able to see what pipe or cables might be there.
The plastic pipe in pic 1. is not a gas pipe or elec conduit - its possibly a waste pipe from the bathroom.

Its possible to wedge the stud wall from above the top plate if you build the wall so as to leave it slightly shy of the lintel- that might be your safest bet.

google pics of stud framing and you will see that the top and bottom plates are fixed flat not on edge.

FWIW:
There appears to be a lintel that could be piercing the chimney breast - maybe into the flue? If so then the flue must be examined - safety & Bldg. Regs dont allow any breaching of a flue.

High up in pic 1. there appears to be daylight entering the room - maybe its just the pic?

 

[Bad]

Hi there's no plastic pipes in that room there all metal and go to gas meter, there's also no chimney or fireplace in this room although it may look like that in the photos, this is at the front of a terraced house, all the houses look the same they used to have like an open coal shed on the front our one has been closed in so I think that's why the wall comes out like that. See pictures of house front, so ours is the white side all closed in as you can see our neighbours are still open

 

[ree]

I'm well wrong then, sorry for a false call.

Thing is FWIW what diameter is that painted gas pipe in the lintel? Compared to the plaster board and the 2" x 4" in proximity in the pic it looks to be pretty large?

So one of the lintels is over a break-thro between the old coal shed and that room?

And you now intend to run the new partition along the lintel length (or cross the lintel at 90 degrees)?

 

[mattylad]

FYI I too have just put up a stud wall, but before doing so I had to thoroughly investigate the floor underneath to find all the pipes, mains cables etc that were underneath - I marked them all out on the floor upto about 2" from where the stud wall will be - later I'll be marking the floor some more so I know where the joists are so once its boarded I wont need to guess or drill to find the joist.

 

[Bad]

I truly believe mains water comes in from kitchen which is away from room, gas comes in through the wall on outside which the Runs up to the gas meter I can see gas pipes in the room that go down into the ground they should run away from the room as the the boiler and gas oven is in the kitchen. So only leaves the mains electric supply to meter there must be a certain depth the cable has to be buried?? Only one radiator in that room pipes come from ceiling. I was thinking to attach a new piece of wood to lintel in place of the one that has been nailed to the lintel you can see in the photo. Gas pipe approx 28-30mm

 

[ree]

1. the gas pipe diameter - must be me or perhaps the expansion/focus that can occur in pics. The pipe will probably be 28mm.

2. A bitter lesson in construction, for pro's & DIY'ers, is to never nail or screw when you dont know what is behind whatever you are fixing to. Thing is, it can come back and bite you months down the line.

I noticed the "new piece of wood" on edge - No consequencies so far so, yes, go ahead and fix your top plate in that position.

 

[Bad]

Well better to be safe than sorry!! Would it be better to maybe put scree the head plate in to the solid concrete roof in the middle of the two lintels?

 

[ree]

I'm afraid that i dont understand your question: "put scree the head plate"?

 

[Bad]

Sorry meant to say "screw the head plate to the concrete roof which is inside th middle of the two lintels

 

[ree]

You could do that but why this moving the position of the wall?



If you now mean to run the partition parallel, and between the two lintels what will happen to the dropped plasterboard ceiling between the lintels?