stupid question

[johnad]

is there anyone who can tell me the positon regarding using a caravan as temporary accommodation on my property,
i have a driveway at the rear of my property so it will be out of the way
my daughter and her other half need somewhere to stay for about a year
and this will be a excellent solution,
but what will be the legale position
any advice please,
many thanks

 

[big-all]

just my thoughts

you will probably need planning permision as its continuous use
youl probably be required to pay rates and may even need there own tv licence

there is probaly special regulations because it contains flammible gas


you local council planning department [annonomusly ] would be a good place to start

good luck

 

[2scoops0406]

A lot depends on whether it has wheels on it or not.

 

[Moz]

johnad
how are your neighbours ? if they are ok an cool with it ,dont tell anyone ,

 

[Softus]

As long as the occupants pay Council Tax, as if there were living in your house, I can't see any problem. Why would there be?

wrt to the gas, caravans are designed and built to use gas, so why would that be a problem?

Clearly the toilet and washing facilities might be austere, but that's a matter for you and your daughter (and her concubine), and nobody else's business as long as no environmental health risk is created.

 

[johnad]

A lot depends on whether it has wheels on it or not.

why ????
i was under the impression that only the owners of the property
ie,(me and the wife)
pay council tax regardless of how many people live at the property,
the same must apply to tv licence (same address)
they would have the use of the house cooking washing etc,
so its just a space of there own,
the neighbours are fine i just don't do anything illeagle.

 

[David P]

A lot depends on whether it has wheels on it or not.

why ????
i was under the impression that only the owners of the property
ie,(me and the wife)
pay council tax regardless of how many people live at the property,
the same must apply to tv licence (same address)
they would have the use of the house cooking washing etc,
so its just a space of there own,
the neighbours are fine i just don't do anything illeagle.

You were under the wrong impression then johnad, every person in a dwelling is liable for council tax. Unlike the old rates system where only the owner paid. if your daughter is moving from elsewhere (where she is, no doubt, paying CT) then she will have to give a forwarding adress to get off that council's list, and cancel her account - then your council will be onto you - and they could see it as evasion if you haven't told them (they are usually mean b'stards).

as for the wheels thing - think about it - the penalty for unplanned building is removal, wheels make removal far easier than demolition, and then when the storm has blown over (if anyone even notices). you can just put it back, proving that it isn't permanent in the process, making further complaints groundless.
well perhaps. lol

 

[David P]

the government planning advice website might help - but you'll have to search it.
try starting here...
http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/england/genpub/en/1011888239467.html

 

[johnad]

thanks for your comments david p i have just found this online,
Who has to pay council tax

Usually one person, called the liable person, is liable to pay council tax. Nobody under the age of 18 can be a liable person. Couples living together will both be liable, even if there is only one name on the bill. This applies whether the couple is married, cohabiting or in a civil partnership.



Usually, the person living in a property will be the liable person, but sometimes it will be the owner of the property who will be liable to pay.



The owner will be liable if:-


the property is in multiple occupation, for example, a house lived in by a number of people who all pay rent, but no-one is responsible for paying the whole of the rent; or
the people who live in the property are all under the age of 18; or
the people who live in the property are all asylum seekers who are not entitled to claim benefits including council tax benefit; or
the people who are staying in the property have their main homes somewhere else; or

the property is a care home.

If you think that the owner of the property should be paying the council tax, you should consult an experienced adviser, for example, at a Citizens Advice Bureau. To search for details of your nearest CAB, including those that can give advice by email, click on nearest CAB.



If only one person lives in a property they will be the liable person. If more than one person lives there, a system called the hierarchy of liability is used to work out who is the liable person. The person at the top, or nearest to the top, of the hierarchy is the liable person. Two people at the same point of the hierarchy will both be liable.

with me as the owner I will have to pay council tax
and as she is living with me as a family member she will not be liable, ?

 

[big-all]

it may still be classified as a seperate dwelling like a granny annex with its own front door

i dont know the answer thats why i am suggesting you check as you dont suddenly after 9 months find your due for £1500council tax and a tv licence

 

[2scoops0406]

This is why the wheeled thing is important, if it is moveable, then it doesn't count. If it is fixed, things get more complicated.