swapping over a in loop rose to a light fitting

[matt1098]

Hi

I hope someone can assist with this lame question. I have what I think is called a ceiling in loop rose (I have two cabe feeds which has two red wires going to the block marked "loop", one black which I think is called the switch wire going to the live block (I say the live block as the brown wire for the pendant goes to the same block) and the other black wire goes to the same block as the blue wire for the pendant. I have to swap that over to this

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(Ive just looked at that photo and its bloody tiny! To explain: the fitting has a terminal block for live, neutral and earth and what looks like a spare block at the end which is unmarked)

Can anyone assist re how I do this?

Thanks in advance

 

[PrenticeBoyofDerry]

Black cable that is at brown flex of lamp to L/Live of new fitting, this black should be sleeved red to indicate it is a switch live.
Second Black cable to N/Neutral blue of fitting
Earth to Earth terminal (You must have an earth connections as the fitting is metallic)
And the reds to the spare connection block.
So much as you have now but use the spare terminal as the loop.

 

[matt1098]

Thanks very much for that. Do the reds into the spare block need to go into the same end of the block or can I put one in each end if u see what I mean?

Thanks

 

[Iggifer]

As long as they are all in a single block so it keeps continuity between the two then they can go in either end, I prefer to put them in the same end and strip enough back so both screws are clamped on both cables rather than one on each

 

[PrenticeBoyofDerry]

Thanks very much for that. Do the reds into the spare block need to go into the same end of the block or can I put one in each end if u see what I mean?

Thanks

either way providing they are connected to each other, but non of the other conductors must go in that terminal.

I prefer to put them in the same end and strip enough back so both screws are clamped on both cables rather than one on each

and so do I!
But do not have any of the bare conductors exposed from the block.

 

[matt1098]

Thanks v much guys

 

[Iggifer]

I prefer to put them in the same end and strip enough back so both screws are clamped on both cables rather than one on each

and so do I!

I'm gonna assume thats pretty much standard practice, if not, it's definitely good practice. It think it looks loads neater too

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Can anyone assist re how I do this?

FFS

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[Johnmelad]

Can anyone assist re how I do this?

FFS

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FFS

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Johnmechild - not everybody shares your insouciant attitude to lazy posters who refuse to read what's before their eyes and waste people's time as a result.

 

[matt1098]

Well thanks again to the guys who assisted. Much appreciated

Ban- all-sheds- you clearly wasted your own time if nothing else.

 

[Johnmelad]

Well thanks again to the guys who assisted. Much appreciated

Ban- all-sheds- you clearly wasted your own time if nothing else.

He just enjoys being a ass-hole...

 

[SaladFingers]

Can anyone assist re how I do this?

FFS

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FFS

Ignore the insolent dick head. He got banned from the screwfix forum for being a prat and I see he's continued here.

 

[SaladFingers]

Johnmechild - not everybody shares your insouciant attitude to lazy posters who refuse to read what's before their eyes and waste people's time as a result.

They don't waste people's time. This is a forum, it's what a forum is for.

If you don't like it, may I suggest you do us all a favour and **** off.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Well thanks again to the guys who assisted. Much appreciated

Ban- all-sheds- you clearly wasted your own time if nothing else.

Ah - do you mean that even though I have shown you to be lazy and selfish and unwilling to help yourself you are going to carry on behaving like that?

Expect the forum equivalent of a punch in the face from me every time you do, you waste of space.