i work in the plumbing department of a large college and teach Plumbing & Gas, last weekend was the SNIPEF apprentice competition, 19 took part and had a written exam, copper pipework exercise and leadwork model to make, the standard of a lot of them was excellant, the lead work winner was a second year student and his work was fantastic, the copper and overall winner attends our college (not taught by me as i dont take the second years yet, well done Craig) i will ask for permission to post some pics, so better not mention any more names etc before i ask, but well done to all who took part and worked hard and it is nice to praise apprentice hard work as well as the usual pelters we give them.