This purlin is supported like this. Any solutions to make it more secure?

[stolonsi]

Ideally it should be going through the wall but I guess it can’t as the neighbours one will be in the same place.

Also it looks like the timber is a bit short and only a bit of it is rested on the brick.

And remedies to make it more secure?

There doesn’t look like any load bearing walls in the loft so I don’t think I can use struts to support the purlin.

 

[Koolpc]

Surely that hasnt always been like that!!?

 

[stolonsi]

Surely that hasnt always been like that!!?

the purlin was previous resting on a crumbled brick, and the brick has been renewed. trying to get ideas as to what we can do to better support this.

I have a feeling the purlin is not even supporting the rafters at this point. would the roof collapse instantly if this brick broke?

 

[RandomGrinch]

Is it my eyes, or has the wall moved - is it leaning outwards?
With the roof off, it's definitely the best time to sort this out!

 

[Koolpc]

Doesnt look right to me. I would be getting a structural engineer to look at it myself..

 

[stolonsi]

Is it my eyes, or has the wall moved - is it leaning outwards?
With the roof off, it's definitely the best time to sort this out!

its just your eyes and the angle. the wall is perfectly straight.

 

[noseall]

Ideally it should be going through the wall but I guess it can’t as the neighbours one will be in the same place.

Also it looks like the timber is a bit short and only a bit of it is rested on the brick.

And remedies to make it more secure?

There doesn’t look like any load bearing walls in the loft so I don’t think I can use struts to support the purlin.

Fix a timber post under the corbel brick, to the wall. Add a length of pre-drilled angle iron (75mmx 75mm) to the underside of the purlin and allow it to extend fully onto the brick.

 

[freddiemercurystwin]

Crap photo, post a better one.

 

[stolonsi]

Fix a timber post under the corbel brick, to the wall. Add a length of pre-drilled angle iron (75mmx 75mm) to the underside of the purlin and allow it to extend fully onto the brick.

Would this be sufficient when we come to selling the house? Just worried it may stop potential buyers from getting a mortgage.

I understand most bank surveyors are useless and they tend not to check properly but Sod’s Law would dictate that I get a surveyor that actually says this is terrible.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Surely that hasnt always been like that!!?

The timber has probably shrunk, since it was installed.

My suggestion would be to have custom gallows bracket made and fitted, tying the timber, to the wall.

 

[Koolpc]

The timber has probably shrunk, since it was installed.

My suggestion would be to have custom gallows bracket made and fitted, tying the timber, to the wall.

That is some shrinkage!!!!!

 

[ree]

OP,
As above "some shrinkage".

Do you own this property or are you a potential buyer? Any basic survey would red flag the purlin.
If the purlin is more or less almost floating then its a clear & present danger.

How do you know the neighbour's purlin "will be in the same place"?
Why do you say that there are no more "load bearing walls in the loft"? How could that be?
Whatever, as things stand, BCO would condemn any holing thro the party wall or attaching gallows brackets or ledgers due to the state of the brickwork in the wall - & the possibility that it is a single brick wall.

 

[noseall]

The timber has probably shrunk, since it was installed.

My suggestion would be to have custom gallows bracket made and fitted, tying the timber, to the wall.

That is some shrinkage!!!!!

Timber shrinks very little (if any) along the grain, even on ancient timber.

My suggestion would be to have custom gallows bracket made and fitted, tying the timber, to the wall.

More or less what I was suggesting.

 

[stolonsi]

OP,
As above "some shrinkage".

Do you own this property or are you a potential buyer? Any basic survey would red flag the purlin.
If the purlin is more or less almost floating then its a clear & present danger.

How do you know the neighbour's purlin "will be in the same place"?
Why do you say that there are no more "load bearing walls in the loft"? How could that be?
Whatever, as things stand, BCO would condemn any holing thro the party wall or attaching gallows brackets or ledgers due to the state of the brickwork in the wall - & the possibility that it is a single brick wall.

I own this property. The brick wall is double.

The house does not have any walls that go straight down from first floor to ground floor. It’s a weird setup to be honest as the main bedroom is slightly smaller than the living room below so it’s not a single wall coming from bottom to top.

Most other houses I’ve been in have a wall that goes straight up to the loft.

When you mention holding through the wall do you mean making a hole and extending the timber and let it rest in the hole?

What would be appropriate measures?

 

[cdbe]

A length of heavy duty angle iron (eg 100mm x 100mm x 8mm, available from any local steel stockholder) about 18" long bolted under the purlin in a "V" configuration and let into the wall in place of that brick would sort it out.