toilet cistern cord conneciton / cistern actuator repair

[ETAF]

i have a newish 2007 toilet flush - purchased through MFI

which has a push button flash - which is attached to a cord that then raises a circular tube to flush the toilet

it looks like the cable is not lifting the circular assembly, i can see the mechanism and hows its all put together at the button , and that is working OK with a pivot that the push bar moves which than moves the cable
BUT its not moving that the other end in the water , section to lift the column

- not sure if the cable has simply just come off a socket or if its broken somewhere or the plastic lift is broken at all

any diagrams , part numbers or how to repair would be appreciated please

Thanks

I can take a picture tomorrow (saturday) and link if that would help at all

the cistern is a plastic assembly thats fitted inside a cupboard type structure - so not the cistern that is fitted in a self contained assembly - its inside the woodern framework and quite a slimline style

 

[ETAF]

here are two photos -
if i lift the column up it flashes the toilet

I just cant see where the cord goes to
or how to get that assembly out of the toilet

 

[ETAF]

here are two photos -
if i lift the column up it flashes the toilet

I just cant see where the cord goes to
or how to get that assembly out of the toilet

 

[Charnwood]

It's not a cord it's a cable, like a bike brake cable. An outer sheath with a wire inside. (It's also flush, not flash.)
If it has come away from the flush valve it is probably cream crackered.

Replace the valve with a Fluidmaster cable flush valve.

 

[ETAF]

Thanks for the reply Charnwood sorry for the spelling and terms

EDIT
All fixed now - I just had to change all the settings until i got the longest water flush ......
And I crimped an electrical connection onto the end of the cable - see how long it lasts like that.

off to see if I can find a longer cable on the internet at all from the links

it a optimal 50 cable dual flush

i have managed to get it apart now - simple once your told just a half turn

I have a new assembly but the cable is not long enough to fit onto the current button

the fault is the knobby part (sorry dont know the name) on the end of the cable has come off the cable and so its not staying in the socket
Found the name nipple
I have managed to turn the cable around so the button nipple end is now in the water section

Which means I can work on the button end - and if breaks in future - much easier to resolve

I'm hoping to use an electrical connector and a crimping tool to crimp a bit of metal on the end to stop it coming out the socket on the button end

unless anyone has better suggestion please

Also
I have two adjustments
one vertical and one horizontal

We have had to flush the toilet twice
if you know how to adjust those settings to maximise the water release for a long and a short flush

please

 

[ETAF]

I thought I would give the full solution; to help anyone who has an MFI concealed Unit

The Cistern is a concealed unit and is made by siamp
http://www.siamp.com/index.php?option=com_hotproperty&task=view&id=36&Itemid=42
This is the concealed type of cistern

Within the cistern the FLUSH mechanism is an Optima 50 unit
http://www.siamp.co.uk/shop/ecom/in...ode=optima_50_cable_operated_dual_flush_valve
It comes with two lengths of cable 350mm and 495mm - the 495mm is for the concealed units

The flash unit comes out very easily - if you have a horizontal bar across the top - just flex the actual cistern side and that will allow the bar to be removed
Then the flush unit comes away from the drain section by turning about 10degrees anticlockwise
and lift out

I was recommended a site in the UK for spares and I must say, they have been very responsive even, replied on a Sunday
They have the Flush assembly available in both cable sizes
They also have the cable available separately

http://www.toiletspares.co.uk/siamp_spares_19.html

PlumbCentre had the part
http://www.plumbcenter.co.uk/en/bat...dual-flush-outlet-valve-universal-flush-36143
Doo24 - But it had the 350mm cable length, and didnt appear to have the 495mm cable available from the tech support line order number

the cable is very easy to remove from both the button end and the flush end

Hopefully this will help others searching the forum or via a search engine who have issues with this unit, may save them some time