vertical waste fitting to WC

[Rachelk]

Hello

I am new to this and totally not technical so please forgive me if this is a really dumb question. I have engaged a plumber who turns out to be an idiot and I need to try and resolve a problem for myself. Hes been in my house fr 2 months now and I am at my wits end !!

I have purchased a short projection WC, my plumber was aware of the model having already fit an identical one in another room. Having laid the floor (and tiled) with the waste coming up through the floor (I understand this is a vertical fitting !) that he has now realised that my toilet is not designed for a vertical waste fitting and he is telling me that my toilet can not be fit flush to the wall....

I can't return the toilet now as I have had it for months. Is there anything that I can do - is there a fitting that will allow for this such a flexible waste pipe ??

Any advice would be very gratefully received Thanks

Rachel

 

[wiggikins]

Yes, it's called a swan necked multikwik!

Keith.

 

[Rachelk]

Hi Keith

Thank you SO much. Is this an easy thing to find ? any pointers on where I might buy one ?

Thanks again, Rachel

 

[JPC]

whats the problem with it...does it not push back to the wall when the pan connector is on ?

 

[gremlin16]

How far is the 4" from the wall ?

 

[Rachelk]

Hi All

I havent managed to get the plumber to demonstrate yet as he explained the problem and then legged it on Thursday night !

My understanding is that he is trying to use what he calls a question mark pipe to connect the WC to the waste pipe (which is vertical) and the bend of the "question mark" is hitting the wall. He claims that it is perfectly normal to have the toilet sitting 2-3 inches off the wall.....

I have established that the WC is not designed for a vertical waste connection and Keith tells me that I can use a swan necked multikwik to connect the WC and that this should resolve the problem

There seem to be a fair few multikwik products, does anybody have any experience with this particular problem that could maybe indicate how much closer to the wall this might allow us to get ??

I have zero faith in my plumber now as he has bodged a few bits of the job and has not been able to work out for himself what the problem is here and so any advice anybody can give would be brilliant.

Thanks x

 

[keego]

I think you'll find the swan necked multikwik is the same as what your plumber is calling a question mark pipe.
And no it's not normal practice to have the WC so far out from the wall.

 

[Rachelk]

Hello again

The "question mark" is totally rigid though, it's not flexible - I thought that the multikwik is a straight pipe with a flexible joint or two ????

It's the rounded bit of the "question mark" that's causing the problem


Gremlin, you were asking how far the waste is from the wall - it's just 1cm

The gap between the back of the pan (the bit that should sit flush with the wall) and the pan pipe hole bit is 16cm.

Forgive me if my explanations are rubbish, I know nothing about plumbing !!

Thank you all, any ideas - maybe I should just buy another toilet ?

Rachel

 

[toptec]

Rachael

I had a similar problem which I solved using a 4" flexible connector. Available at good plumbing joints.

If it is the bend in the swan neck causing the problem and a 90 degree bend is too short on the horizontal, why not use the flexible to extend to the pan.

I am sure there is a way out it is just finding the right one by a process of elimination, take a photo to the plumb centre and they will advise you about your options.

 

[Rachelk]

Thanks very much, I will take a pic to the plumb centre thats a good idea

Rachel

 

[andytheplumber]

Get a new toilet

 

[gremlin16]

If the 4" soil pipe is only 1cm from the wall i cant see why you need a swan neck fitting.
You would normally use a 90 multiquick. If it is horizontally to short then it can be extended by additionall fittings.

Problems usually happen when soil pipe is 4" or more off the wall.

I think you should get another plumber to check it out, coz i think the original one sound a bit of a cowboy.

 

[cowboyplumber]

You called?