Wallrock Fibreliner lining paper.

[Sharpey]

Hello all

I have just purchased some of this lining paper to go up in a bedroom. Wallrock recommend using their 'power adhesive' to put it up. It is a paste the wall lining paper. Does anyone have any experience with this product and know whether it is absolutely necessary to usee this adhesive?

I have a 5kg tub of unused adhesive by a company named Tektura, which is for their fabric backed papers. It is white, so I imagine it is PVA based which is what is usually used on paste the wall type products such as the Wallrock lining paper. I was hoping to use this as it's there and been hardly used.

If that isn't advisable, does anyone have any recommendations for a suitable (cheaper) product or is it really advisable to just use the Wallrock adhesive?

Thanks for any help...

 

[emilybronte]

I use Wallrock quite a lot - it's good stuff. However as you have discovered it's not cheap, and I can see why you're tempted to use a different make of paste... but I really wouldn't risk it. You can get 10 kg tubs of the Wallrock paste for about £17 (£10 for 5 kg) online and that will easily be enough for lining two average sized rooms. I have used this site and they've been very efficient:

http://www.gowallpaper.co.uk/erfurt-mav-wallrock-power-adhesive-ready-mixed.html

 

[dcdec]

Compared to other ready made pastes the wall rock stuff is well priced, but personally i'd make up a strong solvite packet mix, un-necessary expense using a pre mixed for LP IMO.
I think PVA based is a bit slower drying which could cause problems with normal LP's but non woven could be ok, honestly not sure though, maybe someone else could be a bit more definitive, i only ever seem to hang vinyls, anaglyptas and LP.

 

[Sharpey]

Hmm, mixed responses.

I think I might try the Tektura paste on a small patch first to test (for bond strength and shrinkage), and see how it goes. If it doesn't work I might just bite the bullet and get the Wallrock adhesive. I've read somewhere this paper is not like regular lining papers, it might have more of plasticky feel so I'm not sure regular paste mixed heavy will work. I'll inspect it when it arrives.

Thanks.

 

[emilybronte]

Hmm, mixed responses.

I think I might try the Tektura paste on a small patch first to test (for bond strength and shrinkage), and see how it goes. If it doesn't work I might just bite the bullet and get the Wallrock adhesive. I've read somewhere this paper is not like regular lining papers, it might have more of plasticky feel so I'm not sure regular paste mixed heavy will work. I'll inspect it when it arrives.

Thanks.

Testing it on a small patch won't prove much, I'm afraid. You need to see how it behaves over at least two whole sheets of the paper (whether it causes it to shrink, stretch, split etc). For £10, I wouldn't bother. Save your Tektura (?) paste and use it on ordinary wallpaper or lining paper.

 

[Sharpey]

Thanks for all your replies. Looks like I might just have to bite the bullet and get the proper adhesive.

 

[rellis]

I use Wallrock quite a lot - it's good stuff. However as you have discovered it's not cheap, and I can see why you're tempted to use a different make of paste... but I really wouldn't risk it. You can get 10 kg tubs of the Wallrock paste for about £17 (£10 for 5 kg) online and that will easily be enough for lining two average sized rooms. I have used this site and they've been very efficient:

http://www.gowallpaper.co.uk/erfurt-mav-wallrock-power-adhesive-ready-mixed.html[/QUOTE]

I'm about to try wallrock (R300 and Fibreliner - cross-lined) on a ceiling with a bulge/crack in it. Do I need a decorator who has done it before or should any decent tradesman be up to it? Thanks

 

[misterhelpful]

I've hung lots of Wallrock Fibreliner and I can say that Solvite or any other quality brand paste will stick the paper to the wall quite easily. However, when dry, although it doesn't feel or seem to come loose, it can be very easily pulled away from the wall. For this reason I prefer to use the power adhesive. The paper I have used Solvite on has always stayed stuck but it just doesn't fill me with confidence when I see how easily it strips away. Maybe that's a good thing for future stripping, but I prefer to know the paper is well adhered.

Being a non-woven paper, the Wallrock doesn't expand or shrink so testing for that is pretty pointless. The surface of it can seem a bit fibrous, as its name suggests, and some people are disappointed that it doesn't feel as smooth as other lining papers, but it is a very strong and durable product.

 

[misterhelpful]

@ rellis

You should have started a new thread for your query but, as you've asked here, the R300 can be a bit tricky to deal with if it's the first time someone has used it. For this product, it is essential to use the correct thermal liner adhesive and it must be applied thickly enough to hold the liner in place. I roll a layer of adhesive on the wall (ceiling in your case) and then roll another layer on top. Only cover an area just wider than the liner and get it in place pretty quickly. It isn't as manoeuvrable as lining paper and the adhesive will dry out quickly if you remove the liner to reposition it. It can also crease quite easily if you roll it back on itself so it should be positioned directly onto the wall from the roll for best results but that will be impossible on a ceiling.

 

[emilybronte]

I have come to the conclusion that it is best to use the same, good quality adhesive for the lining paper as for the top paper. I hung some very expensive Zoffany wallpaper recently which recommended the Beeline ready mixed paste, so I used that for the Wallrock underneath it as well and it worked perfectly.

Ditto Laura Ashley's (slightly improved but still overpriced) offerings. They have changed their advice now - instead of insisting - as they used to - that you had to use their own rubbishy paste, you can use any 'good quality' adhesive. Good.