can anyone recomend the new telegan flue gas analyser i have a testo at the mo but needs new cells £300 so thinking of new one
which analyser??
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I'll be interested in the responses. My Kane 400 was very noisy and clumsy to use and only lived for two years, screen is dead, and I don't feel disposed to have it repaired.
Not sure how to make a living with all this technical equipment to buy callibrate and repair, core drills geting stolen or teeth getting knocked off by enmgineering bricks, membership of more schemes than you can count on one hand, associated training expenses and equipment expenses.
I know I'm always saying this but I really can't see the benefit of this trade comparing it to my firend's roofing business. He has zero of these types of cost zippo. Yet he makes as much contribution to fixed costs and overheads. Our fixed costs and overheads take a far greater proportion of our turnover than any other business, surely.
I think there will be a major skills gap in a few years as we guys change job.
But I am interested in the answers to your question, and ready to throw more of my hard earned cash away.
Not sure how to make a living with all this technical equipment to buy callibrate and repair, core drills geting stolen or teeth getting knocked off by enmgineering bricks, membership of more schemes than you can count on one hand, associated training expenses and equipment expenses.
I know I'm always saying this but I really can't see the benefit of this trade comparing it to my firend's roofing business. He has zero of these types of cost zippo. Yet he makes as much contribution to fixed costs and overheads. Our fixed costs and overheads take a far greater proportion of our turnover than any other business, surely.
I think there will be a major skills gap in a few years as we guys change job.
But I am interested in the answers to your question, and ready to throw more of my hard earned cash away.
i had a kane 400 but i was sick of the high cal fees. So i went for the Anton(telegan) sprint 200. £45 to cal every 12 months so that isn't too bad. Plus o2 and co2 cells every now and again would be a little extra. I shopped around the anton seemed the best
Also i have noticed the Sprint 2000 gives an more accurate reading on the CO/Co2 ratio, the kane 400 could read 0.001 where as the sprint 2000 will read 0.0015 in that situation.
Also i have noticed the Sprint 2000 gives an more accurate reading on the CO/Co2 ratio, the kane 400 could read 0.001 where as the sprint 2000 will read 0.0015 in that situation.
I do like the Kane range for appearance and ease of use but the high calibration and cell change cost makes them an expensive option.
GES offer a 10% discount to ARGI members on units they can repair themselves. With a Kane they charge you and extra £5 but lend you another unit while they send your to Kane but get it done a bit quicker ( or maybe Kevin was just being helpful.
Tony
GES offer a 10% discount to ARGI members on units they can repair themselves. With a Kane they charge you and extra £5 but lend you another unit while they send your to Kane but get it done a bit quicker ( or maybe Kevin was just being helpful.
Tony
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I find the acureacy of the manometer more useful than have any need for an analyser. I would strongly consider just buying a seperate manometer and seperate analyser. The analyser would probably collect dust between inspections.
The Kane 400 was too cumbersome and took too long to turn on and off to be any use as a stand alone manometer on the cravan sites.
Of course I have a 12 inch andf a 36 inch guage but the handheld manometers which do both Methane and lpg are less cumbersome than a 36 in guage and you have the required acuracy for setting up gas valves.
Any thoughts?
Do we really need an analyser?
The Kane 400 was too cumbersome and took too long to turn on and off to be any use as a stand alone manometer on the cravan sites.
Of course I have a 12 inch andf a 36 inch guage but the handheld manometers which do both Methane and lpg are less cumbersome than a 36 in guage and you have the required acuracy for setting up gas valves.
Any thoughts?
Do we really need an analyser?
on the topic of digi manometers, i couldnt wait to get one but when doing my ACS last year i asked the teacher (is that what they are?) where i could get one and he said corgi dont approve of them as they require calibration.
and if you ever ended up in court over a gas issue unless it was calibrated that day, then it cant be assumed it was working correctly.
as opposed to the water ones which you obviously calibate yourself by zero-ing it everytime
and if you ever ended up in court over a gas issue unless it was calibrated that day, then it cant be assumed it was working correctly.
as opposed to the water ones which you obviously calibate yourself by zero-ing it everytime
You could callibrate it yourself daily against a water guage and keep a log, that would keep you out of court. ALso sending it for professional checking as eviudence for court would get you out of trouble.
A local sparky has made up decade boxes and callibrates his own test equipment, keeping a log. As long as you can prove it is callibrated they can't touch you.
You cannot argue with level of water in a tube at sea level as a reference point from which to check your guage. If they try saying otherwise say, then the u guage is useless, so ask them what they suggest we do, pout our thumnb over the end of the pipe to sense pressure?
Those who can do, those who can't teach.
A local sparky has made up decade boxes and callibrates his own test equipment, keeping a log. As long as you can prove it is callibrated they can't touch you.
You cannot argue with level of water in a tube at sea level as a reference point from which to check your guage. If they try saying otherwise say, then the u guage is useless, so ask them what they suggest we do, pout our thumnb over the end of the pipe to sense pressure?
Those who can do, those who can't teach.
Hi Tony, only if you change the gas valve. The manufacturers don't expect us to check to that degree during commissioning. Worcester don't I was there a fortnight ago asking them. Buderus don't, even though it says so in their manual, they just expect us to check working pressure and away you go.
Yes it is true that later on when these boilers are out of warrantie we may be fittinmg sensitive parts that need this equipment to set them up. Only you guys that are manufacturers service agents have to worry about that right now.
Yes it is true that later on when these boilers are out of warrantie we may be fittinmg sensitive parts that need this equipment to set them up. Only you guys that are manufacturers service agents have to worry about that right now.
The glow owrm cxi, hxi etc need you to adjust the potentiometer on the board so that the emissions reading is at a certain level at a given fan speed, so you can't commission or change pcb without one.
I use a tpi by the way analyser, manometer and thermometer in one.
I use a tpi by the way analyser, manometer and thermometer in one.
Not for installing them.
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