Who yer gonna call? Joistbusters

[ebee]

Can`t find my original posting about this butchery of joists by heating firm on grant aided works.
it`s an absolute disgrace.
I did first fix - holes in centre of joists 3 dia apart in the 0.25 to 0.4 region of 5" x 2" joists as per OSG and recognised good practice then along came the ch installers to lay their pipes and hey presto! big notches on top of joists over the same area.
Big row now going on including EEGA, L A Building Control, Local MP & the firm who did the install of the heating.
Poor Householder is a wits end.
You should see it.Who yer gonna call?

 

[mo2]

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[ChrisR]

5" joists? Houses must have got even cra ppier since I stopped installing pipes. A case for plastic pipe there - could go through drilled holes, if you hadn't drilled quite so many!

I thought it was 1/8th depth too, up to 25mm, but this is a bit different.

 

[ebee]

MO2 Thanks for finding it My Hero.
I searched but couldn`t .
Chris R - I believe they should have been 6" but I can`t blame the CH installers for that `cos the joists were already there.

Who would like their chipboard floor and bedroom furniture resting on that?

 

[mo2]

wow, had a look at the pics poor house owner

 

[Paul Barker]

I've seen far worse. A bloke I know used a cheap firm from West Yorkshire, they slotted right down the middle of the room, too deep and too wide, it was woodchip floor which always needs extra nogins when you put it back, but they didn't of course.

Anyhow that wasn't the half of it, they piped it up in 15mm single pipe system. I couldn't believe my eyes.

Biasi boiler of course, which I've had to fix a few times already.

They're quite happy to use local lads to get them out of the **** when they have no hot water but give the installations to slapdash outoftowners.

If they ever come to sell and buyer gets a survey when he jumps on the floor like they do to check the substance of it he'll definately go through, no doubt about it.

 

[ebee]

5" joists? Houses must have got even cra ppier since I stopped installing pipes. A case for plastic pipe there - could go through drilled holes, if you hadn't drilled quite so many!



I thought it was 1/8th depth too, up to 25mm, but this is a bit different.

I wonder perhaps if 0.15 depth for notch rather than 0.125 is permissible if the zone is 0.1 to 0.2 rather than the 0.1 to 0.25 that we work to.
My local building control had same as ours but for the 0.1 to 0.25 was 0.07 to 0.25 ?

 

[securespark]

West Yorkshire

Careful, now!

 

[Paul Barker]

Not meant to be any kind of tribal prejudice. On the East coast quite a bit of slap dash for cash instalation work is done by Can't be real "tradesmen" come on the whole from major industrial cities west of here. Well they couldn't exactly come out of the Sea.

I have given up puting their work right, just walk out now and tell the member of the public to "get them back".

This is simply for self preservation reasons, after you've drained down a fifth time late into the night to resoulder yet another joint, you realise your mistake. Customer sees it as just soldering a few joints.

 

[ebee]

Hmm west Yorkshire, I stopped there this weekend. Lovelly and not far from me too just wrong colour of rose LOL