Why free mobiles?

[gasbanni]

Money, free accommodation with meals free mobiles..........

How about the government giving our homeless citizens free accommodation?

Don't see the humane French doing this !

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/...star-hotels-lawyers-writes-DAVID-BARRETT.html

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

They are laughing at us..

 

[transam]

Mind you

you cannot blame these people for wanting to escape from France

 

[noseall]

Mind you

you cannot blame these people for wanting to escape from France

It's very cruel what the people smugglers are doing presently. You'd have though Priti would have got a handle on it by now. Record numbers they say. Useless Tory feckwits.

 

[transam]

It's very cruel what the people smugglers are doing presently. You'd have though Priti would have got a handle on it by now. Record numbers they say. Useless Tory feckwits.

so what should Priti do than ? To get a handle on it

 

[IT Minion]

so what should Priti do than ? To get a handle on it

She shouldn't have promised that she would have it sorted by now. It's right, fair and important to remind politicians that breaking promises is a big deal.

 

[noseall]

so what should Priti do than ? To get a handle on it

She should get herself promoted to Home Secretary and have a whole department at her disposal. She could then employ advisors, lackeys and busy-bodies and spend millions of taxpayers money to find a solution. Who knows what powers a HS could wield.

Useless Tory waste of space.

 

[securespark]

Minion is dead right.

Don't promise what you can't deliver.

Mind you, the whole miserable shower have done that, not least Johnson.

 

[Notch7]

How about the government giving our homeless citizens free accommodation?

But you voted for a Tory govt that cuts services, cuts benefits whilst it’s MPs get rich on bungs.

the govt could afford to sort out our homeless and help asylum seekers

 

[sxturbo]

There was discussion that the home office were doing training exercises forcing the migrants to turn back...

But there is a small group of people that are trying to take the government to court over the use of these tactics, they say it breaks the maritime code and human rights.. so the home office have now back tracked from this idea.

But I'm not sure it does because unless the boat is in distress then they don't have to be accepted..

Of course however it just needs one of the migrants to shout help and they will be considered as in distress.

The Aussies carried out a similar strategy a few years back and it worked, and no one tried taking them to court or accusing them of breaking maritime laws etc etc..

One thing I don't understand, is why not have a processing centre in Calais. Those that get asylum come over, those that don't stay in France or are flown back to wherever,

The French need to do better at catching the gangs

 

[Old Salt]

The courts need to take some responsibility, how can someone still be lodging appeals 14 years after the process has started. Change the laws to put a stop to it, deport those found guilty of a criminal offence and process whilst abroad. Camp living for those who enter illegally.
Genuine cases of those facing oppression should be treated with compassion.
French, German, Spanish lessons etc in Calais for those who are economic refugees.
Its a European wide problem that needs to be tackled as a whole by the international community.

 

[Notch7]

There was discussion that the home office were doing training exercises forcing the migrants to turn back...

But there is a small group of people that are trying to take the government to court over the use of these tactics, they say it breaks the maritime code and human rights.. so the home office have now back tracked from this idea.

But I'm not sure it does because unless the boat is in distress then they don't have to be accepted..

Of course however it just needs one of the migrants to shout help and they will be considered as in distress.

The Aussies carried out a similar strategy a few years back and it worked, and no one tried taking them to court or accusing them of breaking maritime laws etc etc..

One thing I don't understand, is why not have a processing centre in Calais. Those that get asylum come over, those that don't stay in France or are flown back to wherever,

The French need to do better at catching the gangs

Push backs are illegal, UK changed domestic law to make it legal….but that would only protect border force agents until the next election.

Australia has been widely criticised for doing it.

 

[AngleEyes]

There was discussion that the home office were doing training exercises forcing the migrants to turn back...

Was there? Where? On National Front facebook page?

But there is a small group of people that are trying to take the government to court over the use of these tactics,

Is there? Who are they?

they say it breaks the maritime code and human rights.. so the home office have now back tracked from this idea.

That's wise, best change tack before they're forced to.

But I'm not sure it does because unless the boat is in distress then they don't have to be accepted..

Have you thought this through? I guess not. How long should Border Force wait, while the refugees bob about with no fuel before deciding to rescue them?
Your ideas are as whacky as Pixie Patel using submarine nets to prevent sailings.

Of course however it just needs one of the migrants to shout help and they will be considered as in distress.

What is 'help' in Iraqi, Kurdish, Syrian, Somalian, etc? Or perhaps they all speak French and can shout 'm'aidez'.

The Aussies carried out a similar strategy a few years back and it worked, and no one tried taking them to court or accusing them of breaking maritime laws etc etc..

There's been dozens of inquiries into the mandatory detention policy.

One thing I don't understand, is why not have a processing centre in Calais. Those that get asylum come over, those that don't stay in France or are flown back to wherever,

Why not have centres in Syria, Turkey, Iraq, Somalia, etc.

The French need to do better at catching the gangs

UK must arrest people-trafficking ‘mafia chiefs’ in London, says French official
‘They live in London peacefully in beautiful villas,’ says Hauts-de-France politician on smugglers

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/migrants-uk-france-traffickers-london-b1964135.html​

 

[AngleEyes]

The courts need to take some responsibility, how can someone still be lodging appeals 14 years after the process has started.

I've heard of ten years being not unusual, but fourteen years?

Change the laws to put a stop to it,

What laws do you suggest changing?

deport those found guilty of a criminal offence and process whilst abroad.

Deport to where?

Camp living for those who enter illegally.

You mean like Australia's highly controversial mandatory detention policy? UK cannot accommodate those considered no risk and lets them go, let alone detaining any others.

Genuine cases of those facing oppression should be treated with compassion.

Of course. How do you differentiate?

French, German, Spanish lessons etc in Calais for those who are economic refugees.

How do you differentiate?

Its a European wide problem that needs to be tackled as a whole by the international community.

It's a global problem.

 

[transam]

Free mobiles

they should also get a free car as well

obviously a leccy one

and a lap top ?