Wired electronic door chime and illuminated 2-wire push switch

[morqthana]

Is this ever likely to be a viable combination, or shall I give up looking and have a traditional solenoid operated ding-dong sounder?

 

[ericmark]

Did not have an illuminated push switch, but 20 odd years ago had an electronic door chime, with two push buttons one for back and one for front door, and a second speaker.

But today all the wireless options, and video type means no one seems to want half way options, either wired with video or wireless.

I have since moving into this house only a few years tried many options, buying cheap Lidi to start with, a pair so one button worked two sounders, latest is TP-Link again two sounders on one button, and it logs when rung on phone.

But it seems the old door bells have vanished.

 

[morqthana]

Well I want wired, and I want an illuminated push, and there are still old-skool bells about, some actual round bells, some the enclosed sort with a solenoid and a rod that bangs into a couple of bits of old xylophone, even some with the long dangly brass tubes.

And electronic sounders, which I'd rather have (although I shan't be selecting Colonel Bogey).

But problems with no solenoid coil for current to reach the bulb, and/or the bulb providing a good enough connection to trigger the electronics....

 

[bernardgreen]

With modern electronic door bells a two wire illuminated push button may be possible by using a resistor to simulate the coil that a mechanical sounder has.

But simpler to use four core cable to separate light circuit from switch ( push button ) circuit

 

[morqthana]

But simpler to use four core cable to separate light circuit from switch ( push button ) circuit

Not if the button only has 2 wires.

 

[bernardgreen]

Not if the button only has 2 wires.

I modified the wiring inside the push button to have two "pea lamps" with flying leads separate from the leads to contact terminals

 

[morqthana]

Touch-sensitive,with LEDs

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Modern LED Illuminated round and square touch doorbell button, a style and finish of buttons that complement the architectural entrance hardware. Each doorbell buttons are available in four metal finishes including black, bronze, brass and a brushed stainless.

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I've not opened it, but I suspect it would be a non-trivial task to separate the power for the LEDs and the touch-to-close function.

A brainwave has just broken on the shore of despondency (actually, that's an exaggeration. I'd prefer an electronic chime, but am not strongly opposed to bits of old xylophone):

Have a 12V relay - use the button to work the coil and the contacts to switch the chime.

 

[morqthana]

Is a transformer next to a relay likely to affect the operation of the coil?

Are either likely to affect the operation of an MCB if mounted next to it?