Wiring a new switch old exsisting circuit

[JoinerMike]

Hi can you please help me
I am trying to install a new light in a walk in wardrobe i have done. I have wired the new light to my new switch and from my new switch to the attic space using 1.0 twin core and earth. The exsisting lighting is an old circuit type. 3 Live 1 neutral no earth and no permanent live. Where can I get my feed from? Exsisting bedroom switch? Wires are old black round rubber type.

 

[GaryMo]

Wires are old black round rubber type.

Might be time to start saving for a rewire.....

 

[JoinerMike]

Its not my house i have fitted stud wall and plastered it just need to wire up light now. I have advised the customer. Where can i get a feed from?

 

[GaryMo]

Didn't you ascertain the installation was adequate for alteration before installing cables?
Have you checked earthing and bonding arrangements are satisfactory?
Will you be issuing a Minor Works Certificate?

 

[JoinerMike]

installing what cables? If I have installed them i wouldn't be posting on here. Shall i call a sparky and insist that he wears a hard hat, ear plugs, safety goggles, protetive gloves, steel toe capped boots, High Viz vest, dusk mask and strap an earth cable to him before he commences work? I thought the idea of the site was to give and recieve advise from fellow tradesmen. If its too risky to comment on without seeing the job first then just say so.

 

[GaryMo]

installing what cables? If I have installed them i wouldn't be posting on here.

Hi can you please help me
I am trying to install a new light in a walk in wardrobe i have done. I have wired the new light to my new switch and from my new switch to the attic space using 1.0 twin core and earth. The exsisting lighting is an old circuit type. 3 Live 1 neutral no earth and no permanent live. Where can I get my feed from? Exsisting bedroom switch? Wires are old black round rubber type.

^^^ Those cables?

 

[ban-all-sheds]

3 Live 1 neutral no earth and no permanent live.

So all that's in the attic are 3 switched lives and 1 neutral? How very odd.

 

[JoinerMike]

That wire is in the attic space on an isolator block, all thats connected is a light and a switch. It doesn't have a live neutral or earth from the existing circuit connected to it in any way. How wrong could i have gone?all are removed at present due to plastering. But was gonna refit light and face plate tomoz. Thought u were on about wires which were connected to the existing circuit. I haven't touched that yet apart from unscrew the ceiling rose and screw it back up again

 

[JoinerMike]

wires just go from rose to rose but none of the roses have permenant lives. So was thinking either there is a wire somwhere which i can't find or the switches have the permanent live, is it wired that way in any wiring circuits that your aware of?

 

[securespark]

If you would like a reasonable chance of us sorting out your wiring woes, please post a picture so we can see what you've done.

Also, post a picture of the point where you want to connect to.

 

[JoinerMike]

Cheers for trying to help. I will take some pictures tomorrow. Ill take 1 of the ceiling rose and one showing the wires entering the bedroom from the attic and 1 of wires entering the existing switch plate Will this be enough? There are no junction boxes in the loft space just 2 wires going from rose to rose and 1 wire from rose to switch.

 

[nozspark]

It sounds like you have central switch jb's with a switched feed to the light fittings.

But if they are VIR then it needs rewiring..

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Thought u were on about wires which were connected to the existing circuit. I haven't touched that yet apart from unscrew the ceiling rose and screw it back up again

If that's all you've done, how are you so certain that there are no permanent lives there?

The exsisting lighting is an old circuit type. 3 Live 1 neutral no earth and no permanent live.

wires just go from rose to rose but none of the roses have permenant lives.

 

[JoinerMike]

god this is hard work lol. Ok i also put a meter onto the cables in the ceiling rose and found they only give reading when the switch was on.

 

[JoinerMike]

Hi all.
I got one of my sparky mates in today to see the job. Its all sorted now. There was a permenant live feed for it, but it was a faulty cable. So the cables have been replaced and no problems now. Thank you everyone who tried to help me and sorry for the time i have taken up.