WRAS Certification?

[dextrous]

A builder friend of mine has being doing some work on a restaurant that is due to open in the next few months. The owner is currently seeking to have new mains pipe run in from the street, and he has told my friend that the supplier want to have a copy of his WRAS certification for the plumbing within.

I've not heard of one of these before (mind you I haven't been plumbing full time for a couple of years or so). Does anyone know what it is, where you can get the paperwork, and who is permitted to sign it off?

 

[doitall]

It's a CoSh type paper, a certificate to say it's been approved.

Normally there's a label on things like unvented cylinders etc, can also be found in the paperwork in some cases.

But in this case I think they mean something else.

http://www.wras.co.uk/Simple_Steps_To_Approval.asp

 

[dextrous]

It's a CoSh type paper, a certificate to say it's been approved.

Normally there's a label on things like unvented cylinders etc, can also be found in the paperwork in some cases.

But in this case I think they mean something else.

http://www.wras.co.uk/Simple_Steps_To_Approval.asp[/QUOTE]

So, unless they're installing something new and not already BS'd (which would need lab testing etc for WRAS approval), the chances are that all they need is the invoices/receipts with details of the appliances/fittings etc used, which should be BS approved anyway?

 

[doitall]

I'm not sure what they are asking for, it makes no sense.

Registered plumbers can self certify the same as gas, so I think they are looking for things like water inspection and approval etc..

 

[bengasman]

...The owner is currently seeking to have new mains pipe run in from the street, and he has told my friend that the supplier want to have a copy of his WRAS certification for the plumbing within.

The supplier?

 

[JohnD]

I presume Supplier means water company

Like the same term is used for an Electricity Supplier.

 

[dextrous]

I presume Supplier means water company

Like the same term is used for an Electricity Supplier.

Yep - sorry if I hadn't made that clear

 

[kevplumb]

sounds to me as if the water board want a bit of paper to say its been done right

all we used to do was get them to inspect it before it was backfilled

 

[bengasman]

Was only puzzled as the way I read it, the supplier of the pipe wanted info about what it was used for.

 

[dextrous]

sounds to me as if the water board want a bit of paper to say its been done right

all we used to do was get them to inspect it before it was backfilled

Think it's more to do with the design and installation within the premises complying with wras, especially as it's for commercial purposes. Anyway, having read the link provided by doitall, it appears that the water company will have a list of approved plumbers (which I read as being qualified plumbers with public liability insurance, and have paid wras to do an exam )who can also do the necessary paperwork.

 

[ChrisR]

Yes that's it.
You do the Water Regs course, tell the supplier then you can get to be an Approved Installer, if you want to. So then you should know what you're doing. Technically it's only so you can self-certify on some particular bits of installation, but they get so many dingbats connecting pipes to the mains all wrong, they ask for your certificate for that too.

It's just a one-day course, which any self-respecting plumber needs to do.

When the inspector came round to the new mains install I did, he said it was the only OK one he'd seen that week.
It isn't remotely difficult, but if you don't know what the rules are there's no way you'll get it all right.
Not surpised, that they're fed up wasting their time with "builders"!

 

[Legion]

When the inspector came round to the new mains install I did, he said it was the only OK one he'd seen that week.

Hope he adjusted your Halo before he left.