£7k a month benefits?!?

[Harry Bloomfield]

They never had 7 kids before. How would they know they couldn't handle it? In life, sometimes you just have to go for it.

Would they have all arrived at the same time? Common sense dictates that they would plenty of warning with the first ones, how problematic more would be. Common sense dictates that they would each need looking after, clothing, housing and feeding. Perhaps there was a lack of common sense, or more likely - they thought the state would fund them?

 

[DiyNutJob]

Seems you can do some googling when need be. Thought so , so all this counting of digits on hands and toes is as ridiculous as it originally sounded when first put forward by yourself.

Rich arabs with multiple wives wouldn't need to claim benefits. More than likely they are honorary citizens because of their money. If we exclude them, your hands and feet is good enough to do the counting.

 

[gant]

Rich arabs with multiple wives wouldn't need to claim benefits. More than likely they are honorary citizens because of their money. If we exclude them, your hands and feet is good enough to do the counting.

So now your obviously struggling we move onto catholic families. What has Google thrown up in that direction ?

 

[DiyNutJob]

Would they have all arrived at the same time? Common sense dictates that they would plenty of warning with the first ones, how problematic more would be. Common sense dictates that they would each need looking after, clothing, housing and feeding. Perhaps there was a lack of common sense, or more likely - they thought the state would fund them?

The state should fund them. They were doing something no others could do. Turns out they couldn't do it either. Everybody gambled and lost.

 

[DiyNutJob]

So now your obviously struggling we move onto catholic families. What has Google thrown up in that direction ?

The inescapable fact is: The average UK family now has 1.7 Children, 1.4 Parents and 1/2 a Dog

Unfortunately, on average, neither muslims, catholics nor anyone else could afford to breed.

 

[Justin Passing]

I would agree about the amount of effort needed, by why then, asking the obvious question - have seven kids?

To get the social....

 

[gant]

To get the social....

Used to be council house when you were sixteen.

 

[Justin Passing]

The state should fund them. They were doing something no others could do. Turns out they couldn't do it either. Everybody gambled and lost.

Nooo, make it undesirable for people who can't afford it, to have kids. Otherwise you fill the country with low quality people.

 

[gant]

The inescapable fact is: The average UK family now has 1.7 Children, 1.4 Parents and 1/2 a Dog

Unfortunately, on average, neither muslims, catholics nor anyone else could afford to breed.

No understanding of the social norms that have taken place since the second world war contained in such a statement, to render it almost pointless.

 

[Justin Passing]

Used to be council house when you were sixteen.

I remember a girl doing exactly that. She fell out with her parents so she produced a kid to get a house, then put it with her sister to look after. The father was a cash plumber, officially unemployed so he didn't have to contribute. She got the council house and the child benefit.

 

[sxturbo]

A dad in my son's football team owns his own business, does cash in hand house clearances owns their own home missus doesn't work, and driving round in a 2015 x5 and was talking about trading it in for a new x5 and both of them are claiming benefits...

Then there are others who are reallyon the bread line and regualy skip meals themselves to feed their kids...

The system is most definitely broken and inconsistent.

 

[DiyNutJob]

No understanding of the social norms that have taken place since the second world war contained in such a statement, to render it almost pointless.

Statistics is a measure of reality, and is not pointless. It is, however, pointless to complain people are having too many kids when the average is 1.7 kids per family.

 

[sxturbo]

But I suspect the system is "broken" on purpose. Who does it advantage ? Only those that want the public to react to headlines and slogans

By keeping people poor it keeps the rate of inflation down.

Bank of England are actively seeking to stop businesses expanding and wants to force shutdowns and redundancies, they want people to lose their homes as it means the common man has less money to spend which gets a hold on inflation and brings it down,

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Statistics is a measure of reality, and is not pointless. It is, however, pointless to complain people are having too many kids when the average is 1.7 kids per family.

Always supposing, and the important point - that the parents can provide for their kids, without relying on the state's support.

 

[DiyNutJob]

Nooo, make it undesirable for people who can't afford it, to have kids. Otherwise you fill the country with low quality people.

That's same as saying if you can't afford to buy a piano, we need to deter you from playing piano, regardless if you have the natural talent to play the piano. The ability to earn or inherit money does not translate to the ability to play piano.

The reason the indigenous population in the UK is declining at an alarming rate is because people with talent for making kids are not given the opportunity. Instead we get the seedless bumbling incompetents trying to breed and fail. My belief is that the talented should be given a chance, rather than relying on the low quality breeders.

Relying on imported population to make up the deficit is nothing short of a bodge on a grand scale. Indigenous new population can be integrated into the country's productivity after 20 years of nurturing. Integration of imported population takes many generations. Some are never integrated. What is the chance of a kebab, or takeaway shop owner producing children who will run large industrial companies? Zero!