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[noseall]

I nearly wet my pants laughing when I read some months back that Brexit was costing us 1bn a month

Hilarious, innit.

Brexit - stupidest exercise ever to hit these shores and voted in by gullible idiots.

 

[SirGalahad]

Its from two reports the £66bn figure is not an actual cost but its that the UK economy would be £66bn larger now if we didnt have the Brexit vote - business as usual.

The actual costs do exist and research looking into quarterly investor conference calls mentioning Brexit impact will shine a better light.

 

[Notch7]

So you feel you've don't lots of research?

Yes

From both sides of the argument.

Unfortunately nearly all arguments for Brexit are based on emotions with slogans that are generalisations but mean nothing.

I heard a company owner yesterday saying his business exported goods to Europe, in event of a no deal his customers have already said: sorry the imposed WTO tariffs mean you will become too expensive.

Will that business owner think 'it doesnt matter Im getting my sovereignty back'.
No.....he will be pizzed off his business has gone bust.

 

[festive]

Example of something NOT democratic:
Tell the public that something will save £350m per week.....but after 3 years has actually cost £66b.
Promise that it would be 'easiest deal in history'
Promise it would take back control, when in fact it would lose control
Argue that it would solve immigration which it wont.
Claim it would get back fishing rights.... which it wont

Getting the public to vote on a pack of lies is NOT democratic

Oh and by the way, It would be awfully benficial if did more research to understand parliamentary democracy, it would reduce your knowledge defecit.
Im just trying to save you further embarrassment.

Go away you annoying fly.. you cant redefine democracy just because you think you're smarter here.
Its Greek for "peoples rule" end of. All the crap you're writing above is just you spending too long on your own thinking you're something special on these forums. You are but not in the way you see it my dear xx

 

[durhamplumber]

voted in by gullible idiots.

We shall agree to disagree on that 1

 

[Notch7]

Go away you annoying fly.. you cant redefine democracy just because you think you're smarter here.
Its Greek for "peoples rule" end of. All the crap you're writing above is just you spending too long on your own thinking you're something special on these forum

Ah bless, Festive is upset he has travelled too far down the Brexit rabbit hole and is thrashing around in the dark.

Dont worry my friend I can help you

The role of an MPs is this
Members of the House of Commons hold, in effect, a triple mandate. They represent all the people of their constituency, their party and the interests of the country. It is a tenet of representative democracy that MPs are not delegates for their constituents. This means that, while the views of constituents are frequently considered, the actions of MPs are governed by their determination of the best interests of their constituency, their party and the country as a whole


Just in case you still disagree, let me share with you an extract from the House of Commons website:

The first duty of a member of Parliament is to do what he thinks in his faithful and disinterested judgement is right and necessary for the honour and safety of Great Britain.

His second duty is to his constituents, of whom he is the representative but not the delegate.

Burke's famous declaration on this subject is well known. It is only in the third place that his duty to party organization or programme takes rank. All these three loyalties should be observed, but there in no doubt of the order in which they stand under any healthy manifestation of democracy.' Sir Winston Churchill on the Duties of a Member of Parliament

So just because you voted for something that will damage the country, your MP has a moral obligation to act in the wider interests in the country.

 

[EFLImpudence]

Yes, but some people disagree with the truth.

 

[durhamplumber]

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[Notch7]

Yes, but some people disagree with the truth.

I think durhamplumber may fall in that category.

 

[transam]

You do keep posting you don't give a damn, but you do.

How is your leader Tough Tommy holding up? Has he managed to shave is beard and have a shower or is he still scared some 70yr old will knock him out.

I don't give a damn

U seem to. Be a fan of this Yaxley bloke

 

[noseall]

Yes, but some people disagree with the truth.

Is that the same group of people that believe and thrive upon lies?

 

[EFLImpudence]

I do think it is.

Apparently, it is the modern form of politics - perception management and the politics of confusion - and if you just tell some people what they want to hear they will be happy and 'believe' it even though it is not true.

 

[EddieM]

Yes

From both sides of the argument.

Unfortunately nearly all arguments for Brexit are based on emotions with slogans that are generalisations but mean nothing.

I heard a company owner yesterday saying his business exported goods to Europe, in event of a no deal his customers have already said: sorry the imposed WTO tariffs mean you will become too expensive.

Will that business owner think 'it doesnt matter Im getting my sovereignty back'.
No.....he will be pizzed off his business has gone bust.

So you did your research after you voted leave?

 

[fillyboy]

Its from two reports the £66bn figure is not an actual cost but its that the UK economy would be £66bn larger now if we didnt have the Brexit vote - business as usual.

The actual costs do exist and research looking into quarterly investor conference calls mentioning Brexit impact will shine a better light.

I think you need to give your head a good shake.

 

[SirGalahad]

I think you need to give your head a good shake.

What you on about. You clearly have no idea or even knew the reports existed - one was written by Goldman Sachs.