15 Minute Cities

[gant]

I rest my case.
Not sure it's time to squeeze the boil on my ar*e or have a bowl of sugar puffs. Somebody else is turn to bang their head against a brick wall.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

I rest my case, not sure it's time to squeeze the boil on my ar*e or have a bowl of sugar puffs. Somebody else is turn to bang their head against a brick wall.

So you made stuff up and have nothing to back it up?

Not a surprise though is it .

 

[Deleted member 221031]

It's not hard is it, carmans another one who posts on other threads saying one thing and then contradicts himself on this thread.
Is it to much for people to be consistent rather than give glib answers because you don't know the answers.

I’ve blocked him. He was like Denso x2

Nothing against the bloke.

 

[Deleted member 221031]

I rest my case.
Not sure it's time to squeeze the boil on my ar*e or have a bowl of sugar puffs. Somebody else is turn to bang their head against a brick wall.

I don’t mind sugar puffs.

It’s noble work, and with very little reward.

 

[Justin Passing]

I honestly don't know how often I have to say this. Those issues are about Oxford's traffic scheme, not the 15 min city concept.

It doesn't rain where you are? There aren't disabled people?

So the Oxford scheme isn't what you mean, and the Barcelona scheme which you cited, is nothing like a "15 minute city", it's a wide pedestrianised street - with a couple of short extensions.
I asked for examples and you can't show me one?
Barcelona has vague plans for "tiles".

Utrecht is vaunted as a 15 minute city but it isn't, except maybe a tiny part. Look for primary and secondary schools, hospitals and the rest which are missing.
No cars, it says. Use Streetview - cars al over the place, shoehorned in, so the peasants are revolting. Ooops. As I suggested above, I can't ride a bucking fike, so I wouldn't be able to go out.
Bad luck for you if you get a problem and they convert your suburb. Would you be so keen, then?

"Let's have everything really close" sounds great. But you don't achieve it by restricting mobility to bikes and sticking a couple of shops in. More public transport might be good, but who pays? It could never come to 15 minutes of me.

Oh but it's not that, it's not this. So what is it? A partly formed concept, as yet illusory.
There are, I just read, 16 "partially implemented" trials worldwide.
So there are people paying lip service to the vague idea, but nobody actually taking it seriously?

 

[Deleted member 221031]

So there are people paying lip service to the vague idea, but nobody actually taking it seriously.

That pretty much sums it up.

Denso is a reader of glossy magazines and loves the puff piece.

 

[noseall]

So there are people paying lip service to the vague idea, but nobody actually taking it seriously?

Except gant and ngtrws and 700 posts without a single downside to them.
Lol.

Get over it. No harm no foul.

 

[denso13]

It doesn't rain where you are?

Yes, so what?

There aren't disabled people?

Yes, so what?

it's a wide pedestrianised street - with a couple of short extensions.

Bingo. Yes, that might be the solution in some areas.

hospitals and the rest which are missing.

What hospitals? You really have a severe misunderstanding of what the concept is.

"Let's have everything really close" sounds great.

Thank you. At least someone has the b@lls to be honest.

 

[denso13]

Denso is a reader of glossy magazines and loves the puff piece.

Ad hom noted.

 

[denso13]

So the Oxford scheme isn't what you mean

The Oxford traffic filter plan? Of course not.

 

[denso13]

Utrecht is vaunted as a 15 minute city but it isn't

Why isn't it?

 

[denso13]

Barcelona scheme which you cited, is nothing like a "15 minute city", it's a wide pedestrianised street - with a couple of short extensions.

This? You are having a laugh.

Barcelona Superblock | Barcelona City Council

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www.barcelona.cat

 

[denso13]

But you don't achieve it by restricting mobility to bikes and sticking a couple of shops in

You are falling for the negative propaganda. You are better than that.

Is this "sticking a couple of shops in"?

https://www.portlandonline.com/portlandplan/index.cfm?c=45722&a=632343

 

[Brigadier]

If they're "minute", won't they be hamlets?

 

[Odds]

Who the F. has time to go through 71 pages of proposals for Portland?
I think we're getting hooked on the idea of getting anywhere in a large city compared to a small town in the same time: fine in theory but in practice an unlikely target. The ideal of a 15-minute city, envisaged by an idealist will usually end up becoming distorted as it meets opposition to the plan and compromises are sought in order to get the planning put into practice.
This is why the trials are being monitored closely by relevant councils now, to help prepare them for a future where electric cars, green energy and a wi-fi connected urban centre is envisaged for a future generation.