And as a total hijack (not posted about this as it's a low priority) - in my loft I have 3 x twin-tube (short) fittings. They actually came out of old lightboxes, and are 450mm max tubes. Switch start, and when switched on, two of the fittings do the usual short-flicker-and-on. One of them does SFA. No flickering, no abortive attempts to start, no phantom glow at the ends of the tubes, nada. As if it had no power at all.
After several minutes (5? 10? Not an exaggeration, but I've never timed it properly) it just suddenly comes on with no drama.