Addiction

[imamartian]

a lot of people are addicted these days... to drugs, alcohol, fags, burgers, porn etc etc..

One way to deal with it... take an addict, induce a coma for a month or two... and hypnotize them to think they aren't an addict.... it can't fail can it?

 

[misterdubya]

Not everyone can be hypnotised.

Why are they dependent on sex, drugs, alcohol, crown green bowls etc...?

I think most problems are deep routed, and a little coma will just give the body time to recover.... it can't fix the mind - even with hypnosis.

Just my opinion.

Mr. W.

 

[JohnD]

is the coma for the physical dependency to break down?

 

[Mickymoody]

a lot of people are addicted these days... to drugs, alcohol, fags, burgers, porn etc etc..

One way to deal with it... take an addict, induce a coma for a month or two... and hypnotize them to think they aren't an addict.... it can't fail can it?

The film 'A Clockwork Orange', kind of proved that those methods have been tried, and failed, but there might be a little truth in there, as electric shock treatment was a quack Victorian method, but people are happy to electrocute themselves, for muscle stimulation today.

How would you 'cure' an addiction to being hypnotised? I'm sure Derren Brown has groupies, that always stick their hands up to be hypnotised?

 

[imamartian]

it was just one of the ideas that popped into my head... after all, if you're giving up a drug, don't you have to wait until the drug is out of your system? so a coma would do that with no problem... and then the mental thing could be got round by suggesting through hypnosis, that the person didn't smoke, and that cigarettes smelt like a dirty nappy for example?

i do accept however, that not everyone can be hypnotised..

 

[misterhelpful]

a lot of people are addicted these days... to drugs, alcohol, fags, burgers, porn etc etc..

One way to deal with it... take an addict, induce a coma for a month or two... and hypnotize them to think they aren't an addict.... it can't fail can it?

I'll give it a try. I've become addicted to...











...DIYnot!

 

[misterdubya]

after all, if you're giving up a drug, don't you have to wait until the drug is out of your system?

Agreed, but why is the user taking the drug? It's them issues that need addressing. Maybe a combination of coma / councelling?

Mr. W.

 

[Mickymoody]

after all, if you're giving up a drug, don't you have to wait until the drug is out of your system?

Agreed, but why is the user taking the drug? It's them issues that need addressing. Maybe a combination of coma / councelling?

Mr. W.

Not necessarily a drug, but an option, like my g/f has been addicted to a game on FB, as it sets time limits, so must always be on the computer, to address these. A friend of mine was a mod on a forum, and was so addicted, when his computer broke, he STOLE a friends credit card details to buy a new computer, to carry on, and at a funeral that we both attended, he was on his phone, checking up, how the forum was going. So addiction isn't necessarily the drug, that hooks you, but the need to do something, psychological (sp)

 

[spacecat]

Some people can be classified as having an addictive personality,
i.e. they tend to get more hooked on things than others

For example if 3 kids have a crafty fag behind the bike sheds how comes one never wants to smoke again, one only has a fag at a social occasion or after a shag and the other starts a 40 a day habit?


Addiciton has been shown to have both strong genetic and environmental causes, i.e. alcoholism often runs in families due to a tendency to drink more and being exposed to heavy drinking from a young age.

Addiction is very hard to overcome the failure rate of rehab for drugs and alcohol is staggeringly high.

People think that just because someone has been denied/used their substance of choice for some time they will no longer desire it but that is not the case.
The underlying psychological and physical need has to be adressed as well.


You will often find that over doses occur in people who have been in custody for a while and not had access to drugs or maybe methadone

As soon as they are released they go straight out and score the same stuff they were taking before they got banged up, what they dont realise is that in those few weeks their body's tolerance level has dropped significantly and cannot handle what it could a few weeks ago and hence they OD.


I know women who have given up smoking whilst pregnant, as soon as they have given birth they start smoking again 9 MONTHS LATER!

 

[nickso]

many people have set up a social network around their addiction which makes it even harder to give up.

i know a guy who is a terrible alchoholic, all of his mates are functioning alcholics and when he gives up the drink he effectively has no mates as they are all in the bar. he falls off the wagon now and then and sits in the bar for 4 months until he gets a kicking for being smart and he quits again. difficult to see how he will get out of that cycle. haven't seen him for a long time so maybe he has managed. hope he has, an accaintance of his threw himself off a bridge for similiar problems, would hate to see this guy go the same way.

 

[spacecat]

many people have set up a social network around their addiction which makes it even harder to give up.

i know a guy who is a terrible alchoholic, all of his mates are functioning alcholics and when he gives up the drink he effectively has no mates as they are all in the bar. he falls off the wagon now and then and sits in the bar for 4 months until he gets a kicking for being smart and he quits again. difficult to see how he will get out of that cycle. haven't seen him for a long time so maybe he has managed. hope he has, an accaintance of his threw himself off a bridge for similiar problems, would hate to see this guy go the same way.

Birds of a feather stick together!

 

[Nige F]

many people have set up a social network around their addiction which makes it even harder to give up.

i know a guy , all of his mates are functioning alcholics .

No such thing

 

[nickso]

many people have set up a social network around their addiction which makes it even harder to give up.

i know a guy , all of his mates are functioning alcholics .

No such thing

no, there is.

 

[JohnD]

up to a point.

 

[spacecat]

the word 'functiong' could be almost applied to anyone, if you can do the normal day to day things that society expects, i.e work, maintain your home and family and not require treatment of any sort

Many people are functioning: smokers and Over eaters for example.......................until they get sick as a result then they no longer function