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Get a grip and try act like you have a pair
We could be at. War next week
Foodbanks .... I got well and truly educated..... drop something in the supermarket contributions
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Screaming
Get a grip and try act like you have a pair
We could be at. War next week
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So why do you, being a misogynistic homophobic racist, care what I do?
Oh that's right...
I've shown you up so many times that you now look completely pathetic, so you have taken up the role of forum stalker
(or in technical terms, you have attained the level of complete ****!)
Best you stick with playing with dogs...
Given the clear intellectual advantage of that species over you, you may learn something useful eventually
You are still here! What happened - did they shut the door to certain individuals in your proposed Utopia?
it almost seems to me that there are people pushing their political preferences, thinking labour socialist militant hatton era claptrap, in a not very subtle way and decrying any contrary post without acknowledging that there could be another point of view. And yes universal credits isn't fit for purpose and yes there are lots doing very nicely sponging off the state
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OK so with this Sundays shop for my work sandwiches etc. I also bought 10 tins of soup and dropped them in the foodbank bin.
Unfortunately its usually situated after the tills so its hard to remember until you pass it, so I did a 2nd trip.
Unfortunately its usually situated after the tills so its hard to remember until you pass it, so I did a 2nd trip.
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To quote Orwell
Orwell summed this up brilliantly in The Road To Wigan Pier:
The miner’s family spend only ten pence a week on green vegetables and ten pence half-penny on milk (remember that one of them is a child less than three years old), and nothing on fruit; but they spend one and nine on sugar (about eight pounds of sugar, that is) and a shilling on tea. The half-crown spent on meat might represent a small joint and the materials for a stew; probably as often as not it would represent four or five tins of bully beef. The basis of their diet, therefore, is white bread and margarine, corned beef, sugared tea, and potatoes – an appalling diet.
Would it not be better if they spent more money on wholesome things like oranges and wholemeal bread or if they even, like the writer of the letter to the New Statesman, saved on fuel and ate their carrots raw? Yes, it would, but the point is that no ordinary human being is ever going to do such a thing. The ordinary human being would sooner starve than live on brown bread and raw carrots. And the peculiar evil is this, that the less money you have, the less inclined you feel to spend it on wholesome food. A millionaire may enjoy breakfasting off orange juice and Ryvita biscuits; an unemployed man doesn’t. […] When you are unemployed, which is to say when you are underfed, harassed, bored, and miserable, you don’t want to eat dull wholesome food. You want something a little bit ‘tasty’.
There is always some cheaply pleasant thing to tempt you. Let’s have three pen north of chips Run out and buy us a twopenny ice-cream! Put the kettle on and we’ll have a nice cup of tea. That is how your mind works when you are at the P.A.C level. White bread-and-marg and sugared tea don’t nourish you to any extent but they are nicer (at least most people think so) than brown bread-and-dripping and cold water. Unemployment is an endless misery that has got to be constantly palliated, and especially with tea, the English-man’s opium. A cup of tea or even an aspirin is much better as a temporary stimulant than a crust of brown bread.
Like Aldous Huxley he was a man way beyond his time.
Orwell summed this up brilliantly in The Road To Wigan Pier:
The miner’s family spend only ten pence a week on green vegetables and ten pence half-penny on milk (remember that one of them is a child less than three years old), and nothing on fruit; but they spend one and nine on sugar (about eight pounds of sugar, that is) and a shilling on tea. The half-crown spent on meat might represent a small joint and the materials for a stew; probably as often as not it would represent four or five tins of bully beef. The basis of their diet, therefore, is white bread and margarine, corned beef, sugared tea, and potatoes – an appalling diet.
Would it not be better if they spent more money on wholesome things like oranges and wholemeal bread or if they even, like the writer of the letter to the New Statesman, saved on fuel and ate their carrots raw? Yes, it would, but the point is that no ordinary human being is ever going to do such a thing. The ordinary human being would sooner starve than live on brown bread and raw carrots. And the peculiar evil is this, that the less money you have, the less inclined you feel to spend it on wholesome food. A millionaire may enjoy breakfasting off orange juice and Ryvita biscuits; an unemployed man doesn’t. […] When you are unemployed, which is to say when you are underfed, harassed, bored, and miserable, you don’t want to eat dull wholesome food. You want something a little bit ‘tasty’.
There is always some cheaply pleasant thing to tempt you. Let’s have three pen north of chips Run out and buy us a twopenny ice-cream! Put the kettle on and we’ll have a nice cup of tea. That is how your mind works when you are at the P.A.C level. White bread-and-marg and sugared tea don’t nourish you to any extent but they are nicer (at least most people think so) than brown bread-and-dripping and cold water. Unemployment is an endless misery that has got to be constantly palliated, and especially with tea, the English-man’s opium. A cup of tea or even an aspirin is much better as a temporary stimulant than a crust of brown bread.
Like Aldous Huxley he was a man way beyond his time.
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Orwell's books are among my favourites. I've read them all. In that book (Road To Wigan Pier) his description of work down a mine is spectacular, with all the dangers, the heat, the dirt, and the fact that him being so tall he had to spend all of the time down there bent over. In "Down And Out In Paris and London", another favourite, he explains how (although I can't remember how now!) in a restaurant, a dirty kitchen is the best kitchen. If you want descriptions of austerity - real austerity, not today's kiddy-on variety, read Orwell's first book "The Clergyman's Daughter"; cold baths and all. People lived austere AND good lives in those days. I don't know what Orwell would make of today's left and right politicians, although I do remember in one of his essays
I could never make much sense of Huxley; too far-fetched.
I could never make much sense of Huxley; too far-fetched.
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Also, I try to live by Orwell's rules of good writing, one of which is to never use the passive voice. Anybody speaking to you in passive sentence construction is lying or hiding something from you. In his essay about politics and language he describes how dishonest politicians change the language, introducing new words and making existing ones taboo, so that you can no longer think, never mind speak or write the wrong opinions. George Orwell was indeed before his time, because in his writing of manipulation of language he was foreseeing Tony Blair.
Virtually any Tory MP
Its funny how so many people call Tony Blair a liar but support Johnson (Im not saying you do, in general).
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Blair was the master; he changed British politics so much that it is seemingly impossible to go back. Today's Conservatives, Boris, Cameron and all, are the continuation of Blair's policies. There is not a conservative amongst them.
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