Advice on roof repair - £1100 for 2 hours work
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This is why we put on our quotes “Work is estimated to take 4 days difficulty permitting. The price will not be reduced should the work be completed sooner nor will it be increased if the work takes longer”
Wouldn't a customer be worried that a professional doesn't know how long it takes to do a job?
I understand a very large project, but a roof valley and a couple of tiles...
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As someone else touched on, moral of the story is get at least two quotes for comparison. I have a few BTLs and if they ever require roof (or any) work I get a quote. If the first quote is reasonable to me, I may well ask them to bash on without getting others. If I think 'seems a bit excessive' I'll get one maybe two more to compare. I get what you're saying re reduced time to complete the works compared to estimate, however if the work is completed to an acceptable standard for the agreed price that's the main thing.
Maybe not quite the same thing, years ago we got new double glazing. The company advised 'Be prepared for our tradesmen to be on-site for up to five days.' In the end it took them two days, however we didn't ask for a reduction.
Maybe not quite the same thing, years ago we got new double glazing. The company advised 'Be prepared for our tradesmen to be on-site for up to five days.' In the end it took them two days, however we didn't ask for a reduction.
Sounds simple doesn't it....
I understand things could go wrong, but not knowing if it will take 2 hours or 4 days sounds unprofessional to me.
Every job i ever done, i sat down and set reasonable daily targets to work out the total time it would take and quote accordingly.
I was never out by a week.
Especially with simpler jobs like replace door and frame, things can go very wrong timewise (no lintel and collapsed walls), but you work that out in the quote or let the customer know about possible trouble.
I don't think anyone quoted 4 days.
Question , so you start stripping out a door frame .. low and behold there's dry rot .. do you reckon on that ? How long would you think it will take to treat?
Stripping a valley out could just as easily reveal the same.. job goes from a day to months...
In the original case here., Without pictures it is impossible to say expensive or fair.
By the way , we are told it was a slate roof , not a tiled roof. Big difference. And don't forget the three vent slates. Have you fitted any?
And of course the scaffold costs
The lead had worn and was leaking. Not clear if the leak is gone as attic still smelt damp when rained last week.
The fact it took a couple of hours is only relevant if they cut corners - the scaffolding costs probably the same as for 3 days - also not much different between 2h and 1 day as far as labour goes - unlikely they'd start another job on the same day as they'd have had to allow extra time in case of difficulties.
My dad once had a guy quote to replace the bargeboards on the side of our house as he was past the point he could paint them every few years. The guy who ran the business who did the work said if he'd known what the boards were like, he'd have charged double - been up 80 years and the wood was hard as steel - took them best part of a day just to get the old ones down. The moral of this story is sometimes a job goes easy peasy, sometimes it's a pain in the arse - in your case looks like it turned out easy which was good for them, and makes no difference to you.
So 1100 - take off 400 for scaffold, 100 for materials and take off VAT, leaves you with 460. Assuming Ltd company, deduct Corporation Tax at 18% gives you £377. Then there's employer/employee NI and income tax...
My dad once had a guy quote to replace the bargeboards on the side of our house as he was past the point he could paint them every few years. The guy who ran the business who did the work said if he'd known what the boards were like, he'd have charged double - been up 80 years and the wood was hard as steel - took them best part of a day just to get the old ones down. The moral of this story is sometimes a job goes easy peasy, sometimes it's a pain in the arse - in your case looks like it turned out easy which was good for them, and makes no difference to you.
So 1100 - take off 400 for scaffold, 100 for materials and take off VAT, leaves you with 460. Assuming Ltd company, deduct Corporation Tax at 18% gives you £377. Then there's employer/employee NI and income tax...
when I was quoting for stuff it always surprised me how quickly it al added up -and despite the big figure the actual net profit wasnt big.
the job in the pics looks awkward to me -its got a ridge abutment to a pitch tiled roof, short stretch of valley and finishing with what looks like a parapet -lots of nasties to uncover.
That's what I paid for. There were 3 of them on site.
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