At that depth recovering the flight data recorder and the CVR is going to be difficult and time consuming enough, without the effort of recovering all the disintegrating bodies as well.
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Tech is what caused the thing to crash in the first place
Human error is what caused it to crash and causes most aircraft crashes. There are rumours that pilots are members of unofficial and secretive airline competitions to see who can use the least fuel. This means there's a disincentive on pilots to fly around bad weather for the comfort of passengers. The AF447 pilots saw the weather in the Inter Tropical Convergence Zone and thought they could blast through it. Unfortunately their radar only showed a smaller storm system, which was obscuring a massive system, into which they blundered a few minutes later. The issue of the faulty pitot tubes is secondary to the fact that they shouldn't have been there in the first place.
All rumour, of course.
All rumour, of course.
Which renders your post a bit pointless...that's why they've spent all the money on the searches, to try to find out the facts behind this disaster. Whenever something like this happens FACTS make future passengers that bit safer.
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That is probably one of the daftest ideas I've seen about aviation in the last few years. Those rumours are totally false!
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Mickymoody
I heard of an internal scam, where f1 drivers bet on their positions between themselves, and if someone beats them, they slow down, during qualifying...and effectively choosing which team to drive for...so Airline pilots, NOT doing the same? I find hard to believe.
I heard that one from an airline pilot, for what it's worth.
I also know a flying instructor and he says human error is behind the vast majority of air accidents; it's very seldom a simple failure or mechanical problem without some error of maintenance or design or use.
I also know a flying instructor and he says human error is behind the vast majority of air accidents; it's very seldom a simple failure or mechanical problem without some error of maintenance or design or use.
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Mickymoody
I think a mechanical failure, on a plane, leads to pilot error..rather than the other way round.
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Mickymoody
Fog or poor conditions doesn't make any afflictions to the pilots ability then?
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joinerjohn
Fog should make absolutely no difference to a pilots ability to fly the aircraft safely. They are taught to fly using instruments only. This day and age Micky,aircraft can even land themselves, using Instrument Landing Systems.
Heck, the pilot's only there now so he can make announcements to the passengers,,,, and take the blame if there's a crash.
You notice in every aircrash where the pilot has been killed, it always comes down to pilot error. If they said it was a fault with the aircraft, the company would be liable for massive payouts, but by blaming the dead pilot, they absolve themselves of all responsibility.
Heck, the pilot's only there now so he can make announcements to the passengers,,,, and take the blame if there's a crash.
You notice in every aircrash where the pilot has been killed, it always comes down to pilot error. If they said it was a fault with the aircraft, the company would be liable for massive payouts, but by blaming the dead pilot, they absolve themselves of all responsibility.
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hardly. if it's due to pilot error and then found there was a training issue it's right back to the company.
also an investigation is done by the aviation authority and unless backhanders come into play a dead pilot does not always take the blame if there was a genuine plane defect. don't forget the plane manufacturers have been blamed and sued on many occasions as well.
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Mickymoody
Fair comment. However, might question the ability to fly a big jet just on instruments, there's not much weather normally at the height they achieve, might be trained for it, but don't use it. If an airport is surrounded by fog, then planes are diverted. Even though the technology is there.
I missed the comment earlier about the faulty 'pitot' tubes (were they blocked by gaffer tape by groundstaff, which they failed to remove?), by removing those sensors, and having no further backup system, no visuals, and losing these sensors, send the instruments crazy, the pilot has no reference, to base other judgements on. Flying over water, with no moon, no horizon, instruments lying to you, that's not pilot error, it's doing the best in a bad situation.
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