another child abuse gang caught and locked up for life

[Mottie]

You've never been that far from civilisation have you.

No, but a few years ago we were off roading in Spain and one of us came a cropper. If he'd been on his own it could have saved him a lot of aggro.

A few years ago on a motorcycling trip in Spain, one of our group hit a tree stump in a forest and fell off. As we were helping him up, we heard a voice coming from his bike in Spanish. Luckily we had a Spanish speaking guide and he talked to them in Spanish. He said it was the emergency services asking if assistance was needed. If they had received no reply, they would have attended the scene automatically - to the exact location in the middle of a forest. It’s clever what they can do these days.

 

[noseall]

In 2022/23 for example there were 17'800 rape offences committed upon children and 91% of those offences that year, committed by white British men. In the same year 85% of ALL group based rape gang offences were committed by white British males.

91% of all rape cases 2022/23 received immediate custodial sentences.

In the same year 85% of all familial sexual assault cases received immediate custodial sentences.

Explain how this applies....

The kind of offences where the perpetrators get long jail sentences, not NFA, Cautions etc

Eh?

It is not white British males committing the majority of rape abuse against kids, via rape gangs.

LIAR.

 

[motorbiking]

You've never been that far from civilisation have you.

Travelling in USA with friends up near Canada border, stopped at a remote village. Landline was installed in case of emergency. No mobile signal, no sat nav signal, no wifi (obviously), very very poor internet.

No satellite signal? Did you try standing outside?

 

[motorbiking]

Some. iPhones from iPhone 14 onwards. They will also auto dial the emergency services if they detect a crash and give your location, just like the built in feature on many top end cars and bikes. Handy if you’re off-roading or riding solo in a remote location. Samsung Galaxy can get sat emergency services but only on the latest S25 and also the Google Pixel. There may be others.

About Messages via satellite on your iPhone – Apple Support (UK)

With iPhone 14 or later, you can send iMessages or SMS messages via satellite when you’re off the grid with no mobile network or Wi-Fi coverage.

support.apple.com

don’t think it works outside US and Canada.

 

[Mottie]

About Messages via satellite on your iPhone – Apple Support (UK)

With iPhone 14 or later, you can send iMessages or SMS messages via satellite when you’re off the grid with no mobile network or Wi-Fi coverage.

support.apple.com

don’t think it works outside US and Canada.

Definitely does.

 

[motorbiking]

I’ll give that a try next time in the middle of the sea.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

No satellite signal? Did you try standing outside?

Yes. Could get signal in patches, like tops of hills

 

[noseall]

In 2022/23 for example there were 17'800 rape offences committed upon children and 91% of those offences that year, committed by white British men. In the same year 85% of ALL group based rape gang offences were committed by white British males.

91% of all rape cases 2022/23 received immediate custodial sentences.

In the same year 85% of all familial sexual assault cases received immediate custodial sentences.

Explain how this applies....

The kind of offences where the perpetrators get long jail sentences, not NFA, Cautions etc

Eh?



It is not white British males committing the majority of rape abuse against kids, via rape gangs.
LIAR.

 

[motorbiking]

We've been through this at least a dozen times. You are taking little snippets from data and pulling them together to create an argument that isn't true. Just look at this claim:

91% of all rape cases 2022/23 received immediate custodial sentences.

In 2023 the percentage of rape offences resulting in prosecution was 2.1%, in 2024 it was 2.6%.

For Child Rape, the conviction ratio in 2022 was 49%. That excludes NFAs.

for example there were 17'800 rape offences committed upon children

In 2022 there were 1,079 child rape offences proceeded against, with 533 convictions (table 3)
https://www.csacentre.org.uk/app/uploads/2024/02/Trends-in-Offical-Data-2022-23-FINAL.pdf

You're all over the place and clearly don't understand the data.

 

[noseall]

We've been through this at least a dozen times. You are taking little snippets from data and pulling them together to create an argument that isn't true. J

No. You have posted vague nonsense many times.

You mean snippets from the 2020 Home Office Report...

Span, and convictions in Telford – have mainly involved men of Pakistani ethnicity. Beyond specific high-profile cases, the academic literature highlights significant limitations to what can be said about links between ethnicity and this form of offending. Research has found that group-based CSE offenders are most commonly White.
the same report....

A number of studies have indicated an over-representation of Asian and Black offenders in group-based CSE. Most of the same studies show that the majority of offenders are White.
Or did you mean this snippet from the Police database....

The vast majority of grooming gang offences are carried out by white men, the National Police Chiefs’ Council

Or this snippet from the same article same database...

New figures from the police database show that, where ethnicity data was available, 85% of “group-based” child abusers were white in the first three quarters of 2024.

Or this one...

The same data for the whole of 2023 showed 83% of offenders were white.

In 2023 the percentage of rape offences resulting in prosecution was 2.1%, in 2024 it was 2.6%.

For Child Rape, the conviction ratio in 2022 was 49%. That excludes NFAs.

Irrelevant waffle. Nothing to do with your lying post (see below).

You're all over the place and clearly don't understand the data.

Nonsense.

However this snippet...
it is not white British males committing the majority of rape abuse against kids, via rape gangs. There are plenty of official reports confirming this and I have posted them for the forum idiots to appraise themselves of.
LIAR.

Nothing you have posted will change the lies in your post boyo, because it is simply not true. In fact it is the polar opposite of the truth.

 

[noseall]

For Child Rape, the conviction ratio in 2022 was 49%. That excludes NFAs.


In 2022 there were 1,079 child rape offences proceeded against, with 533 convictions (table 3)
https://www.csacentre.org.uk/app/uploads/2024/02/Trends-in-Offical-Data-2022-23-FINAL.pdf

Where do you think it says "sorry we made a mistake a vast majority of group based rape gang offences are not comitted by white British men".

Show ANYWHERE where it says this....
It is not white British males committing the majority of rape abuse against kids, via rape gangs.

I'll wait (he won't, he can't).

 

[motorbiking]

Carry on dishonesty posting irrelevant rubbish then. You clearly didn’t want me to explain after all.

You don’t need a calculator to work out that 533 divided by 17,800 does not get you to 91% custodial sentences.

In 2022/23 for example there were 17'800 rape offences committed upon children and 91% of those offences that year, committed by white British men. In the same year 85% of ALL group based rape gang offences were committed by white British males.

91% of all rape cases 2022/23 received immediate custodial sentences.

Lies

 

[noseall]

Carry on dishonesty posting irrelevant rubbish then. You clearly didn’t want me to explain after all.

You don’t need a calculator to work out that 533 divided by 17,800 does not get you to 91% custodial sentences.


Lies

Nonsense.

Do the math's.

 

[noseall]

You don’t need a calculator to work out that 533 divided by 17,800 does not get you to 91% custodial sentences.

Why are you posting irrelevant nonsense. Address this if you will..

It is not white British males committing the majority of rape abuse against kids, via rape gangs. There are plenty of official reports confirming this and I have posted them for the forum idiots to appraise themselves of.
LIAR.

Nothing you have posted will change the lies in your post boyo, because it is simply not true. In fact it is the polar opposite of the truth.

Show where it's NOT white British males committing the majority of rape abuse via rape gangs.

I'll wait (he won't, he can't).

 

[noseall]

In 2022/23 for example there were 17'800 rape offences committed upon children and 91% of those offences that year, committed by white British men. In the same year 85% of ALL group based rape gang offences were committed by white British males.

91% of all rape cases 2022/23 received immediate custodial sentences.

In the same year 85% of all familial sexual assault cases received immediate custodial sentences.

All the above is true...

The report did not publish an overall breakdown of suspects’ ethnicity, but across various contexts (online, intra-familial, group-based, offences by under-18s) a large majority (between 76% and 91%) of suspects were White