Appliances in compartments warning

[jacko555]

I have a Worcester Greenstar 30Si in a cupboard in the bathroom.

There's a warning sticker about keeping the cupboard door closed

Is this just a generic warning or does it need to stay in a cupboard for some esoteric reason?

Could I swap the cupboard for a louvre door affair? My only hesitation is it's not really enclosed with a louvre door.

I really don't think it's an issue but would rather check first.

 

[kidgreen61]

BG love putting those on cupboard doors, seems to be Company policy wherever there's a boiler in a cupboard.

As long as your boiler is a room sealed (draws air in from flue, not surrounding space), it is unlikely to need ventilation for cooling or combustion unless Manu Instructions say so, so you can ignore sticker.

 

[RandomGrinch]

Hi,

As the boiler in a bathroom, there could be an argument that using a louvered door could lose the compartmentalisation, and bring the boiler into a zone.

As above, the sticker is generic and similar ones are used by many companies.

If I may ask, what would you like to achieve?

 

[muggles]

BG love sticking these on boilers, and I've never really understood why as in the majority of cases the information on there is incorrect

 

[jacko555]

If I may ask, what would you like to achieve?

Wifey doesn't like the "melamine monolith" and thinks a bamboo/pine style cupboard with louvre doors would "soften" it.

As long as your boiler is a room sealed (draws air in from flue, not surrounding space), it is unlikely to need ventilation for cooling or combustion unless Manu Instructions say so

Good idea, I'll check the manual. The room itself isn't well sealed (big gap under door) which aids the ventilation. However, the cupboard is well sealed.

 

[ianmcd]

As others have said just ignore it, usuall BG rubbish, their outdated company policy and the sheep that follow, modern boilers dont need compartment ventillation

 

[RandomGrinch]

As others have said just ignore it, usuall BG rubbish, their outdated company policy and the sheep that follow, modern boilers dont need compartment ventillation

The question isn't about cabinet ventilation - the OP is intending to add more, by fitting a louvered door!
@jacko555 , how far away is the door from the bath/shower?
And the big question do you want to change the door or not?
I'm sure we could come up with convincing arguments one way or the other!

 

[ianmcd]

The question isn't about cabinet ventilation - the OP is intending to add more, by fitting a louvered door!
@jacko555 , how far away is the door from the bath/shower?
And the big question do you want to change the door or not?
I'm sure we could come up with convincing arguments one way or the other!

Nope only requirement is stated in the MIs minimum distances for servicing is all that is required , louvre door or welded steel wont make any difference

 

[RandomGrinch]

As long as there is a cupboard door, I believe the electrician's will be happy!
...but think of all that extra dusting!

 

[Madrab]

A boiler can only be installed within zone 3 of a bathroom, that means anywhere closer than 0.6m to the bath/shower or basin is considered a no no, unless it's within it's own enclosed space

 

[pcaouolte]

When BG used to service my boiler in a cupboard in the bathroom they would stick one of those stickers onto the side of the boiler. When they left I peeled it off. The next year they would stick a new one on. This went on for several years.

Now I have the boiler serviced by a local independent heating engineer he doesn't add the sticker. I asked him about it and he said that the boiler takes air from outside and is room sealed so the information on the sticker is incorrect. He is also happy for me to store things in the cupboard, the boiler casing doesn't get very warm and the flue goes straight out of the back of the boiler so there is no chance of anything falling onto that.

 

[Madrab]

Reading the notice (which is really a catch all), there isn't anything that's actually factually incorrect on the sticker.

a) The 'don't leave the door open....' paragraph is relative, if the compartment was in a bathroom and anywhere within zone 2
b) The 'don't block grilles....' paragraph is only relative if there were actually any fitted/required (a room sealed appliance wouldn't need any)
c) You shouldn't use a boiler compartment to store/dry clothes or anything else in it as the norm, unless they were on separate shelves, that's just common sense
d) If it was a warm air heater then there would be vents and any vents etc should not be covered and any fitted filters would need to be cleaned every month
d) every gas appliance should be serviced once a year.

Certainly that's the way I read them. Does it need to be there, could it be on the inside .... well

 

[denso13]

A boiler can only be installed within zone 3 of a bathroom

I think technically it is outside zone 2 and the basin doesn't count, only a bath or shower.

 

[Alec_t]

Rather than replace the cupboard, couldn't you get someone with artistic talents to paint a floral design or whatever on it to keep SWMBO happy?

 

[Madrab]

basin doesn't count

Sure does, it's from an IP perspective, so anything electrical that isn't >IP44 rated (I think), needs to be in its own compartment or outside zone 2 (zone3)