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imamartian
anyone else concerned about the use of robots in the future?
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imamartian
Actually that's intersting.... i hadn't thought about that.... but does that mean you disagree with the electric motor, or the spanner, or oil, or levers?
my worry is that they are potentially humans next predator !!
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joinerjohn
Nahhh. Computer scientists and programmers have still to create an AI system good enough to allow robots to make decisions. You can be sure that if they do, there will be very strict rules applied, similar to Asimov's 3 rules of robotics.
All assuming that Artificial Intelligence could somehow become self aware (like in the Terminator movies)
All assuming that Artificial Intelligence could somehow become self aware (like in the Terminator movies)
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imamartian
Nahhh. Computer scientists and programmers have still to create an AI system good enough to allow robots to make decisions. You can be sure that if they do, there will be very strict rules applied, similar to Asimov's 3 rules of robotics.
All assuming that Artificial Intelligence could somehow become self aware (like in the Terminator movies)
of course they can make a decision... an "IF" statement is a decision...
plus what if these 'decisions" are the want of a certain "ah my dinner jacket"? robots can be made so they're lethal to humans... and although they can be destroyed, surely you can build a robot that can build robots quicker than humans can destroy them?
What do you mean, "in the future"? We've already got them. Lot's of them can be found in factories. It must be at least thirty years since a car was advertised as being "hand built by robots". We have them in our houses too. I just set two off today: one washing clothes and the other washing dishes.
But of course that's not what most people think a robot is. For a start, they probably imagine something vaguely humanoid in appearance - a machine better described as an android - and they assume that it'll have a degree of intelligence. Taking the second point first, I don't know how far advanced industrial robots are but my humble washing machines are sorely lacking. Even so, they still do a perfectly good job.
As far as androids go, I think it's crazy to build robots in human form. Why would you ever want to do it? (On second thoughts, don't answer that. How does the song go? "I - am - your - automatic lover ---" ) Sci-fi writers have already covered the myriad possible things that could go wrong so I'll mention just one example: "I Robot"!
I've no doubt that robots, both industrial and domestic, will become commonplace in the not too distant future and their intelligence could increase to the point that it overtakes our own. The most sophisticated ones will be used to go places that are hostile to us humans, whether that be other planets or Earth's own core. We'll have to be very careful how we program these new super-robots because, as sci-fi writers have also pointed out, they could easily turn against us. Bearing in mind that this planet will be around for maybe five thousand million years and we humans have been here for less than one, I'll go so far as to predict that, in the distant future, Earth's dominant 'life' form will be a machine.
But of course that's not what most people think a robot is. For a start, they probably imagine something vaguely humanoid in appearance - a machine better described as an android - and they assume that it'll have a degree of intelligence. Taking the second point first, I don't know how far advanced industrial robots are but my humble washing machines are sorely lacking. Even so, they still do a perfectly good job.
As far as androids go, I think it's crazy to build robots in human form. Why would you ever want to do it?
(On second thoughts, don't answer that. How does the song go? "I - am - your - automatic lover ---" ) Sci-fi writers have already covered the myriad possible things that could go wrong so I'll mention just one example: "I Robot"!I've no doubt that robots, both industrial and domestic, will become commonplace in the not too distant future and their intelligence could increase to the point that it overtakes our own. The most sophisticated ones will be used to go places that are hostile to us humans, whether that be other planets or Earth's own core. We'll have to be very careful how we program these new super-robots because, as sci-fi writers have also pointed out, they could easily turn against us.
Bearing in mind that this planet will be around for maybe five thousand million years and we humans have been here for less than one, I'll go so far as to predict that, in the distant future, Earth's dominant 'life' form will be a machine.
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imamartian
you don't need to define intelligence to become a problem.... surely in a social context Hitler wasn't a 10 out of 10?!!!! but he had the power to wreak havoc...
Robots that are accepted as aids to humans, could be infiltrated, reprogrammed etc to attack al humans...
I accept it's all a bit sci-fi.. but i'm not some lunatic West-hating fanatic with access to some of the worlds leading scientists !!!
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Robots in factories aren't intelligent. If you take the paint spraying robots, all they do is get a human paint sprayer to spray a car part whilst his X/Y co-ordinates are mapped, The robot simply replicates those X/Y co-ordinates. No intelligence at work. Insects fascinate me. When you look at the size of an ant brain yet the computing power it has it's staggering.
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joinerjohn
Perhaps I'm confused by the original question though and am reading more into it than you intended. Sure you could program a robotic device to kill humans, but it can only follow it's programming. Perhaps the question needs rephrasing and should mention what exactly you mean by robot. Is it a machine with an AI that can actively make decisions about itself and it's need to survive?, or is it the humble industrial robot, bolted to some nondescript factory floor, which can't operate without human input?
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imamartian
Fair point, but if i'm honest, i don't really understand the question... but my concern is a real one... and yes, i suppose i-robot sums it up...
So i suppose i'm questining the controls, or the agreement of robot makers.... after all a robot could be an air-freshener, yet could be programmed to emit cyanide at a prescribed time.
That Asimov thing is brilliant, but would scare the sh1te out of me if i had to deal with it in an unusual context !!!
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joinerjohn
Ahh but an IF statement has to follow certain conditions. If X= Z+1, then do Y, or if X> 12, then do Z etc etc. Conditions are already programmed in (by humans)
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imamartian
but you could analyse in detail your responses...
If it's raining, then take a brolly, elseif it might rain take a brolly else go without brolly...
i won't pursue the pseudo code, but you could go to a billion levels theoretically....
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