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I was simply comparing Durhamplumbers question to Elly if he'd call for another referendum should a second one return remain as the result.(I'm sure elly wouldn't then want a third referendum after getting the result he so desires) Comparing it to the Irish referendum on the Lisbon Treaty (remember that one do we? ) Although I'm absolutely 100% sure that if we had a second referendum and it returned the same result of the first one, Elly would be calling for repeated referenda until he got the result he wanted.
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So much for the democratic process then...
The boycott approach is usually only used in 'banana republic' type countries
So will you also not be taking part in the next general election?
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More importantly, what is best for the people...
Indeed.
But first you have to remove quitters' fingers from their ears and stop them chanting 'la-la-la' all the time
The effects of Brexit (no deal) have been trotted out many times and are well known, plausible and reasonable.
However, you are mistaken in thinking this is the sole reason that Brexit has become unpopular. The main reason is that people have become aware of the disentanglement problems that have arisen over the last couple of years and the negative consequences of parting from the EU. There has been a big realisation amongst quitters lately and Brexit has lost it's flavour.
Your daft quitter MP's said it would be easy and that we hold all the trump cards, blah...blah...blah. All lies. It seems a huge chunk of the sweeteners in the quitter campaign have just not materialised.
The French on the other hand, (who are supposed to be quivering wrecks about the UK leaving) are refusing to grant an extension to A50. In other words - get on with UK and bu££er off.
First of all thanks for the explanation.
On the Irish referendums, the first referendum was rejected narrowly. So the Treaty was amended and put to the people again, when it passed by a substantially larger majority than the previous rejection. (Irish constitution requires a referendum to approve changes to that constitution)
The overwhelming reason for voting against the Treaty in the first referendum was because the voters did know enough about the Treaty. (Canny Irish, eh? Not voting for something blindly)
How does that differ from TM putting the same proposal to the HoC several times until she gets a majority support, or not?
At least the Treaty was amended before putting to the Irish again. TM's deal is exactly the same as the one already thunderingly defeated by Parliament, yet presented again and again.
BTW, I suspect Elall would support as many referendums as anyone would like to propose. There is only one group of people
As I said, a new referendum result for Brexit would reinforce the original decision, nothwithstanding some determined not to vote again. A new referendum might overturn the earlier vote due to the newly informed electorate on the repercussions of Brexit. Indeed the electorate could flip-flop this way and that. But they are only advisory.
Should we consider the Irish opinion now on their continued membership of EU?
²Changed to suit some peoples' sensibility in semantics. Thereby avoiding a long drawn out discussion about extremely minor differences in opinions of what words mean.
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*Shrugs*. Same thing.
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I'm sure if another referendum returned a remain result, Elly wouldn't be calling for (nor support) another referendum (neither would our EU masters)
If it did, would you continue to support the idea that the democratic will of the people must be respected?
farage said he would boycott a referendum, if it was a choice between mays deal or remain, but if it was a referendum for mays deal or leave with no deal then he would vote.
but of course if remain won the first referendum, there would never of been a second , or the excuse that no one knew what they were voting for, or that because the campaign was lies and half truths both sides. no, if remain won the referendum, there would be no fighting like we have had, because the leavers would of accepted democracy.
but of course if remain won the first referendum, there would never of been a second , or the excuse that no one knew what they were voting for, or that because the campaign was lies and half truths both sides. no, if remain won the referendum, there would be no fighting like we have had, because the leavers would of accepted democracy.
Really?
In the same way as austerity is 'good' for the UK as well as being 'good' for the people of the UK?
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But farage would carry on campaigning to leave since he would consider it 'unfinished business'...
It's everyone's right to go for what they believe in, rather than have the quitter mentality that a one off opinion poll is the 'be all and end all' of democracy...
Should we therefore say that the result of the next general election is final and we are happy to stick with the outcome indefinately?
Only Ellal can tell us the answer.
You don't think the EU would support another referendum?
I don't think they would give a monkey's as long as we could make up our minds.
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