Best Combi

[oldbutnotdead]

Very few installers suggest this but esp for a larger house a combi and cylinder can be very effective- cylinder near the bathroom(s) so no long wait for hot to come through, kitchen tap on the combi so same plus avoids a fair bit of the kitchen/shower hot water interference. Unvented cylinders (if mains pressure/flow are up to it) are good but there's an annual maintenance overhead to consider.
Boilers- my next one will be Intergas, i like the simplicity (no diverter valves or similar bits to fail). TBH most now come with 7+ years warranty (as long as they're serviced)

 

[durhamplumber]

You gas registered durham?
Don't see you in the chamber.

I never go in the chamber.58 and winding down..Do not do so many installs or repairs.

 

[durhamplumber]

I have a "back up" car. It is a taxi. ( rhymes with Baxi )


can be a serious problem for some people


It could also be seen as being nuts to install a system that wastes gas. All boilers waste a bit of gas when they fire up and shut down, A combi fires up every time a hot tap is turned on, this happens many times a day. Other boilers maybe only fire up 4 or 5 times a day.

So instead.In a small property.keep 20 gallon of hot water just incase you cannot go 24hours in 10years without hot water...Top economics Bernard

 

[durhamplumber]

can be a serious problem for some people

Lol...I am sure it is Bernard....but then so is wasting money keeping tanks of hot water in case it isneeded 1day in 10 years...Some people think it the end of the world waiting 10secs for water to turn hot!

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

So keep a tank full of water hot for ten years in case it is needed for the odd day!?An immersion heater willnot provide CH if the boiler is off.

The tank full is normally used up at least once per day, the house is normally occupied. I would consider having a combi, if the place was often left unoccupied. No an immersion heater will not provide CH, but a gas fire will warm a room and electric heaters will help in other rooms.

 

[durhamplumber]

The tank full is normally used up at least once per day, the house is normally occupied. I would consider having a combi, if the place was often left unoccupied. No an immersion heater will not provide CH, but a gas fire will warm a room and electric heaters will help in other rooms.

I am talking in general,if you run off a full tank every day and space is no issue etc...good for you . Combi boilers are not the pile of crap made out by some in here...The built in obsolescence era we live in applies to all appliances etc..Equally.Stored HW is not faultless and financially sensible etc in every case

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Lol...I am sure it is Bernard....but then so is wasting money keeping tanks of hot water in case it isneeded 1day in 10 years...Some people think it the end of the world waiting 10secs for water to turn hot!

10 second wasting water and gas and extra wear and tear on the boiler.

 

[bernardgreen]

Not what he/she asked.

I accept that. But is it not better give advice about matters that need to be taken into account when deciding whether a combi boiler is suitable for his home and life style.

 

[bernardgreen]

An open vented facilitates back up plans and is usually cheaper to repair when it does go wrong. I also suspect they are much less troublesome anyway, if looked after even reasonably.

Exactly my opinion and experience.

This is old but still valid LIINK

 

[bernardgreen]

but then so is wasting money keeping tanks of hot water in case it isneeded 1day in 10 years

The hot water is used every day, and does not involve the boiler having to fire up every time a hot tap is opened.

 

[RobGra]

Hmm, all interesting points.

Could I therefore ask for recommendations for;
A; A conventional/standard floor standing boiler - direct replace or;
B; A combi boiler, wall mounted for a large 4 bedroom house,mshowervand bath

 

[denso13]

Installers push combi's simply because they are much simpler and less costly to install. When replacing an open vented with a combi, they can make good money on the copper scrap. Then even more on the return visits to fix the issues.

Nonsense.

 

[denso13]

This is old but still valid LIINK

Yes, and shows many more advantages than disadvantages.

 

[denso13]

electric heaters will help in other rooms.

Not if you get a power cut. Do you have back up generators as well?

 

[denso13]

Hmm, all interesting points.

Could I therefore ask for recommendations for;
A; A conventional/standard floor standing boiler - direct replace or;
B; A combi boiler, wall mounted for a large 4 bedroom house,mshowervand bath

Better to get a trusted installer to advise on your specific situation. Many on here have already decided what you need which is the wrong way to go about it.