Best plug for 2.5mm flex

[Risteard]

None. 2.5mm^2 cable must not be connected via a BS 1363 plugtop.

 

[SUNRAY]

None. 2.5mm^2 cable must not be connected via a BS 1363 plugtop.

Can you quote the reference to back up your fable?

 

[Risteard]

BS 1363.

 

[morqthana]

Does that actually impose a prohibition on the use of, or terminals designed to take, 2.5mm?

Or is it simply that it doesn't have a requirement to take 2.5mm?

 

[flameport]

. I do want to connect it via a plug so that I can lift it out if necessary for cleaning.

Sling the fitted flex away and fit a 3m one instead. Hardwire to the usual outlet.
Hob can now be taken out and placed aside for this mythical cleaning where the hob is taken out on a weekly basis and hopefully not dropped and broken every time.

Or just fit the usual seals around the hob so cooking mess doesn't end up under the edges of it.

 

[SUNRAY]

BS 1363.

No I said the actual reference, I've worked with the part of BS1363 where the license was granted to use plugs without internal fuse and the requirement to use 2.5mm².

So the part of BS1363 which prohibits the use of 2.5mm² please.

 

[flameport]

Does that actually impose a prohibition on the use of, or terminals designed to take, 2.5mm?

Or is it simply that it doesn't have a requirement to take 2.5mm?

It's a specification that plugs are made to. 1.5mm² is the maximum size of conductor specified.

Someone could theoretically make terminals which accept larger conductors, but that would be entirely pointless so it's not done and never will be.

 

[morqthana]

So, either these people are wrong about the plugs taking 2.5mm.

Or they are wrong about it being manufactured to BS 1363.

Or Risteard is wrong.

Which is it.?

 

[morqthana]

Does that actually impose a prohibition on the use of, or terminals designed to take, 2.5mm?

Or is it simply that it doesn't have a requirement to take 2.5mm?

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It's a specification that plugs are made to. 1.5mm² is the maximum size of conductor specified.

Someone could theoretically make terminals which accept larger conductors, but that would be entirely pointless so it's not done and never will be.

So, not a prohibition, just not a requirement. Someone could make a plug which took 2.5mm if they wanted to, and it would be perfectly OK.

And this is simply wrong:

None. 2.5mm^2 cable must not be connected via a BS 1363 plugtop.

?

 

[morqthana]

Sling the fitted flex away and fit a 3m one instead. Hardwire to the usual outlet.
Hob can now be taken out and placed aside for this mythical cleaning where the hob is taken out on a weekly basis and hopefully not dropped and broken every time.

Or just fit the usual seals around the hob so cooking mess doesn't end up under the edges of it.

Flex emerges from a hole in the case - I'd have to open it up to get at it, which would probably scupper the warranty.

You're right, I probably would rarely do that sort of cleaning, certainly not weekly.

 

[ebee]

I can not see the argument here!.

does not conflict with terminals that actually are capable of taking 2.5 flex.

If a manufacturer is able to make such a plug that satisfies both requirements without negating the other then what the heck is the problem?

 

[blup]

I managed to terminate 2.5mm flex (T+E) inside the SF plug I linked to, it supplies power to a shed 30 odd metres away pending installation of a permanent supply. The terminations have held firm

 

[morqthana]

I can not see the argument here!.

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does not conflict with terminals that actually are capable of taking 2.5 flex.

If a manufacturer is able to make such a plug that satisfies both requirements without negating the other then what the heck is the problem?

Ask the guy who said "2.5mm^2 cable must not be connected via a BS 1363 plugtop". Mind you - I've just noticed he doesn't even know where he lives, so maybe he's just confused about everything.

 

[morqthana]

Soz if I seem a bit tetchy, but it's annoying to ask for advice and get factually wrong replies. Differences of opinion are one thing, but saying a standard says "must not" when it doesn't....

 

[flameport]

Someone could make a plug which took 2.5mm if they wanted to, and it would be perfectly OK.

They could.

But they won't as such a plug would be larger, more expensive and have no real use.