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[diy_fun_uk]

I got banned from a forum x years back. There was a thread about women getting attacked when walking home, mainly at night. I mentioned something along the lines of 'unfortunately where possible women, anyone for that matter, need to think about walking home with another person when it's dark/night.' I literally said something along those lines.

Went on next day, I'd received a 3 day ban. I was genuinely puzzled as to why. Emailed admin. Response came back along these lines 'we don't condone victim blaming on the forum.' I replied saying, as far as I was aware, I wasn't victim blaming. I was simply stating when walking home at night, it makes sense for women and for that matter men to try and avoid walking home alone for their own safety.'

Without any further reply, they banned me.

Unless I'm missing something, the mods on that forum were completely conflating my statement about trying to be safe with victim blaming.

This is my point. Today and increasingly, if we try to discuss/debate anything that doesn't fit a certain narrative, we're deemed to be ist. It's their way to shut down the debate ... which they know has a thread of truth in many cases.

 

[Pat ex]

Come on, keep up, it's called correlation. It's perfectly valid for me to mention the boat people because I'm discussing how, when certain topics (e.g. the boat people) are brought up, if you mention anything negative about the situation or the people, you're labelled ist.

Come on yourself. How many of those involved do you think were asylum seekers?

I could be wrong, I reckon if 90% of the folk that jumped over the McDs counter had been white, the media would still have reported it. Are you suggesting they wouldn't have?

It may well have been reported, but you can bet your life that it would not have been reposted on here, and especially not by a known racist.
It was intentional click bait to ferment social tensions.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Disgusting behaviour. Why do we always try to theorise these things away? That's why these issues don't get properly dealt with.

Someone on here said in another thread that we don't fully understand the concept of right/wrong until we're older, we follow our peers when younger etc. Some of that (the latter part) can of course be true. However I'd assert once you get into your teens, if not before, you're well aware of the right and wrong concepts. If you're not, then your parents sucked a bit ... oh wait, we're not allowed to blame parents for anything.

The idea of doing something like jumping over a shop counter to steal stuff when I was younger, or boldly walking into a shop to steal something and boldly walk out? These sort of things didn't even enter my mind but had they, I wouldn't have done them, because I broadly knew the concepts of right and wrong.

But oh no, let's not apportion any blame to those committing the crimes ... let's blame everyone else. Yes yes, of course there is correlation with some of this stuff and socioeconomic challenges, however that doesn't excuse most (any?) of the crimes we're seeing reported these days.

until or unless you catch, and prosecute then more and more will realise they can get away with more and more.

we are now reaping those rewards.

Colour, race, socio economic background, or even immigration is not the driver. Lack of obvious punishment is. Those backgrounds may add to some of the reasons, but usually by lack of decent rewards for good effort, not the basic cause as many in here suggest or believe. A vicious cirle.

I support more police, more sentencing and yes more prisons. That costs money. We appear to keep voting for the opposite and then blame Johnny foreigner, not ourselves

 

[Pat ex]

This is my point. Today and increasingly, if we try to discuss/debate anything that doesn't fit a certain narrative, we're deemed to be ist. It's their way to **** down the debate ... which they know has a thread of truth in many cases.

There's nowt wrong with discussing sensitive issues. If you think that this was a serious attempt by a known racist to discuss issues on a serious level, you're a bigger sucker than I took you for.
It was intentional click bait because he was censored yesterday for using an offensive term.

 

[Pat ex]

Lack of obvious punishment is.

I would disagree, I believe the biggest driver is lack of opportunity and inequality.
I do appreciate that you touched on it in the rest of your comment.

 

[diy_fun_uk]

Come on yourself. How many of those involved do you think were asylum seekers?

Deary deary me. Do you just look to pick debate fights, or are you not very bright?

I DIDN'T SAY ANY OF THE MCD'S CROWD WERE ASYLUM SEEKERS!!!

Did you hear about Mr Bloggs getting attacked by those two thugs? It was horrific! What's going on in this neighbourhood?!? It was only last week Mrs Jones got attacked by that guy, transpires he was an immigrant.

You ...

So you're saying Mr Bloggs got attacked by an immigrant??!!?? You're disgusting!!!!!!

Debates go round and round with folk like you cause you often misconstrue what folk type. I suspect you do it intentionally. It gets boring.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

I would disagree, I believe the biggest driver is lack of opportunity and inequality.
I do appreciate that you touched on it in the rest of your comment.

Understand the point. But most petty criminals (of every colour, race, background, belief, shape, size) keep going and getting worse if there is no punishment, or even guidance.

Opportunity and inequality are some of the factors involved in the initial stages.

It is all tied in together, hence no simple easy cure.

 

[Pat ex]

Deary deary me. Do you just look to pick debate fights, or are you not very bright?

I DIDN'T SAY ANY OF THE MCD'S CROWD WERE ASYLUM SEEKERS!!!

Then your implication of asylum seekers was irrelevant, and if it was irrelevant it was an exploited opportunity to discredit asylum seekers undeservedly.

 

[Pat ex]

Debates go round and round with folk like you cause you often misconstrue what folk type. I suspect you do it intentionally. It gets boring.

When the same people persistently ferment anti-foreigner tensions it's not just boring, it's dangerous, disingenuous and disgusting.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Debates go round and round with folk like you cause you often misconstrue what folk type. I suspect you do it intentionally. It gets boring.

And because many keep bringing the same thing up every time they can, to blame all our problems on something.

It used to be the EU, now it's immigrants, which brexi t didn't cure!

 

[noseall]

I'm not going digging.

But we all remember you defending the rights of the penniless George Floyd who held a gun to a pregnant woman's tummy and the same George Floyd you support the mega rich footballers bending the Knee for.

Our Government are weak but you and your like are the root of our problem.

Utter made up nonsense and lies as per.
"I'm not going digging" lol. You could not find your arris if I gave you a mirror on a stick.

 

[Deleted member 294929]

That did not happen during that incident, and the police would not have known that at the time.

The copper in question did know George and I suspect knew all about him.


Phttps://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/06/10/george-floyd-derek-chauvin-knew-had-workplace-row-former-colleague/

 

[transam]

There are always some

Who will deflect or attempt to excuse bad behaviour

The fruit cakes Generally play the race card

 

[transam]

we got a load of travellers that have taken over a park not far from here

Local shops plagued with shop lifting

Parents drive onto the fore court and send there children inside to shop lift

Even hold items up to the window so there parents (?) can give em a nod

 

[carmanmemoranda]

we got a load of travellers that have taken over a park not far from here

Local shops plagued with shop lifting

Parents drive onto the fore court and send there children inside to shop lift

Even hold items up to the window so there parents (?) can give em a nod

What would stop them ?