Boat illegals up under Labour.

[Sunshine32]

You mean, it states the obvious?

I mean what is happening in real life looks reflected in the pages of this dossier. Do you think?

 

[ellal]

Well at least we agree there are different numbers of migrants entering different western countries.

Indeed...

And the UK was way down the list before brexit...

Now of course things have changed...

Except of course the ratio of illegals to legals despite a slight rise in actual numbers has dropped dramatically

 

[denso13]

Do you think?

No.

 

[Sunshine32]

No.

You don't think the UN's idea of replacement migration to solve population decline is real.

 

[denso13]

You don't think the UN's idea of replacement migration to solve population decline is real.

I don't think the dossier has anything to do with what is happening now.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Nothing is being taken out of context. The UN published a dossier on whether or not replacement migration is a solution to aging and declining populations. Western nations with aging populations have an influx of migrants entering countries illegally and these migrants are being settled legally.

And that's where you are TRYING to take it out of context. But I agree, you are floundering.

All I am asking is if people are interested enough in the subject of why this is happening, to look at the dossier and seriously ask if what we are experiencing is a result of the contents of the dossier or not?

And before they do, to understand what illegal immigration is, and WHY

 

[Sunshine32]

I don't think the dossier has anything to do with what is happening now.

Why?

I am in two minds on it. I don't want to believe it but I look at the stats in the pages and I think it isn't out of the question.

I read that 'immigration' is in the top tier of concerns for voters. Not all voters. So, if it is infact true the UN has implemented a replacement migration policy in the background, it would mean that voting is not necessarily the gateway to democracy or freedom of political means anyone thinks it is.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Why?

I am in two minds on it. I don't want to believe it but I look at the stats in the pages and I think it isn't out of the question.

I read that 'immigration' is in the top tier of concerns for voters. Not all voters. So, if it is infact true the UN has implemented a replacement migration policy in the background, it would mean that voting is not necessarily the gateway to democracy or freedom of political means anyone thinks it is.

You are still ignoring (deliberately) or conflating (deliberately) illegal and legal migration

 

[Sunshine32]

If human traffickers provide a person the means of passage to exit one country and enter another. It's illegal.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

If human traffickers provide a person the means of passage to exit one country and enter another. It's illegal.

Now put that into your reading of the dossier and re think it

 

[Sunshine32]

I understand the mechanics of modern slavery and human trafficking.

 

[Sunshine32]

The old way of slavery was to take people by force, now we collude with the traffickers and pretend it is all above board.

Nothing has changed much, we are still the sick country we always were.

 

[denso13]

If human traffickers provide a person the means of passage to exit one country and enter another. It's illegal.

No it isn't.

 

[denso13]

So, if it is infact true the UN has implemented a replacement migration policy in the background

That is only true in your mind. The dossier doesn't talk about implementing anything.

 

[Sunshine32]

Promoters of human trafficking and modern slavery.