Boiler fitted in Fireplace

[FiremanT]

O&B. Kindly refrain from talking crap about a subject that you are not qualified to advise upon.
If that panel is the only route through which the boiler can receive combustion air, then it must not be refitted (unless I am wrong about the size of the grille openings).

The possibility that the BG missed the obvious is not relevant. He may have been a £20 contractor, although that does not excuse his error resume. But we all make mistakes, and there MAY be sufficient openings, say, down the sides of the mantle.

 

[Hot&Cold]

The possibility that the BG missed the obvious is not relevant. He may have been a £20 contractor,

Profit before safety then if your correct.

The permanent ventilation needs urgent action.

O&B. Kindly refrain from talking crap about a subject that you are not qualified to advise upon.

re this thread,You made that statement,now please prove it

 

[FiremanT]

I don't need to. I am qualified. You are not.
The permanent ventilation requires sorting, but equally so does the severe restriction.I. e. The panel.
Why do you think fly screens are not allowed on ventilators?

 

[bobgarb]

Thanks everyone for the help

The Property was built in 1904, the boiler was there when we moved in 1996, its never given any problems, there are two air bricks they supply air to under the floorboards no other air brick in the room see picture, someone down the road who's got a gas fire I think had a couple of grills placed in front of the fire in the floor!

In the picture there is one grill to the right and another under the doors

 

[FiremanT]

Fair enough. You clearly know better, so keep talking to Old and Bold, the unqualified, and just take the advice that you want to hear.
The window installers also committed an offence by making a gas installation compliant.
I repeat, if the holes are sub 6mm,the grille is not allowed, unless there are is another air ingress facility. If the boiler is relying on air through the grille,then raise a complaint with BG.

the boiler was there when we moved in 1996, its never given any problems

We get away with a lot of stuff, until we don'.

 

[bobgarb]

Sorry, I don't know better just asking for advice, all I want to do is make sure it's safe, I just want to make sure that I put a Air vent in that is legal, re the grill that's in front of the boiler what it be ok to drill larger holes holes into it to improve airflow!

 

[ianmcd]

you dot seem to understand what you are being told, yes the vent you have posted is enough for the ventillation to the room containing the boiler, however your fly screen is not compliant, you need to install the wall vent AND fit the correct screen or no screen at all.

 

[bobgarb]

Sorry thanks everyone, put it down to my age and having no experience with Boilers and Central Heating. I have removed the screen and will get the wall vent fitted, any ideas who would be the best people to ask to drill hole etc? Where would be the best place for the vent? Just above the skirting board or higher? Also if I where to fit a screen what would you suggest would be the best?

 

[ianmcd]

All areas are different, lots of companies out there, have a look online for core cutting services , or diamond core cutting services, similarly your local gas engineer might do it for you , I have done a few as I have the equipment , no point in it sitting idle when it can be making money, Plumbers also use diamond cores , you can hire the equipment but it can be a bit of a rip off to be honest

 

[FiremanT]

7As a general rule, a high position reduces the risk of being aware of a draught.
Alternatively, position the vent behind pennant furniture, sUchida s a chest of drawers, obviously taking care not to block off the vent. The draught will be dissipated and not feel so bad. On addition the Ryton vent, to which I referred earlier, also helps dissipation.

I saw the details earlier but it did not state specifically what size the boiler input was.
If your boiler is the biggest 45/60, then it may be around 80000btu/hr input. If that is the case, then a free air vent of 82.2 cm will be required. Your existing vents may well be under that. But fit a 100 cm and you will be well within. Otherwise get a qualified guy to assession the vent size, check air path and find the max gas rate of the boiler.

 

[ianmcd]

The vent that you posted is sufficient for your needs , however if you have the 45/60 model then you can still use this vent but you can not fit the draught excluder baffle as it restricts the air flow to 71,500 btu/h and if you have the 45/60 model you require 75/000 btu/h, the vent you selected without the draught excluder baffle will be sufficient.

 

[bobgarb]

Would like to air on the safe side and get one that's larger than needed, the trouble is I can't see anywhere on the boiler that tells me what model it is! to find out what output of the boiler and have goggled for images that match mine!

Would this one be ok

http://rts.vents.co.uk/blog/product-details/aac125lp-rytons-super-acoustic-lookryt-aircore/

I do appreciate all the help that's being given, I have a vast knowledge of computers but crap at this subject

I was told by the British Gas fitter that these old boilers go on forever but are almost impossible to get spares for and told me not to replace it with modem models because they don't last as long, he might have been talking C*ap I'm not to know!

 

[ollski]

I was told by the British Gas fitter that these old boilers go on forever but are almost impossible to get spares for and told me not to replace it with modem models because they don't last as long, he might have been talking C*ap I'm not to know!

Lol, he'll be getting a slap on the wrists for missing 'at risk' ventilation and the sack for not forcing you to buy a new one!

 

[bobgarb]

LOL not his fault when he visited it had two wood French doors with plenty of ventilation to two new UPVC doors without any That's why I want to put a Vent in the wall .

 

[bobgarb]

Thanks
FiremanT and
ianmcd

You where right about the boiler output I found this see picture
It was mentioned I could use one of these http://rts.vents.co.uk/blog/product-details/aac125lp-rytons-super-acoustic-lookryt-aircore/
but without the baffles but could someone give me a link to 100 cm air vent? I've tried looking but can't find one!

Thanks once again and sorry for being such a pain, hopefully this'll the last time I'll be pestering you